ALERT: Military finds artillery round with sarin nerve agent...

IOW, it was a round that was supposed to have been destroyed pre-1991 and was apparently overlooked. It still doesn't add up to the "tons" of chemical and biological material that were being touted by the administration.

A single round filled with chemicals that are no longer dangerous does not justify a war.

 

Miracle? No, more like science.

Sorry to burst your WMD bubble, if it were fired 7-17 years ago, that might have been a problem.

Sarin's shelf life doesn't exceed 5 years or so even in the best cirucmstances. Look it up.

 

Uh, you mean the ones that Saddam failed to account for? Yeah, you're right, we should have just taken him at his word. He is so trustworthy and everything. Heck, we should probably believe him now when he says he's still the President of Iraq! bwa ha ha ha ha

 

Thats not what this website says. http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/sarin/basics/facts.asp

Immediate signs and symptoms of sarin exposure

* People may not know that they were exposed because sarin has no odor.
* People exposed to a low or moderate dose of sarin by breathing contaminated air, eating contaminated food, drinking contaminated water, or touching contaminated surfaces may experience some or all of the following symptoms within seconds to hours of exposure:
* Runny nose
* Watery eyes
* Small, pinpoint pupils
* Eye pain
* Blurred vision
* Drooling and excessive sweating
* Cough
* Chest tightness
* Rapid breathing
* Diarrhea
* Increased urination
* Confusion
* Drowsiness
* Weakness
* Headache
* Nausea, vomiting, and/or abdominal pain
* Slow or fast heart rate
* Low or high blood pressure


* Even a small drop of sarin on the skin can cause sweating and muscle twitching where sarin touched the skin.
* Exposure to large doses of sarin by any route may result in the following harmful health effects:
* Loss of consciousness
* Convulsions
* Paralysis
* Respiratory failure possibly leading to death

 

What's with the new "ho ho ho" 's? Is that some new psychological warfare: The Santa Effect?

 

Reminds me of a Wierd Al song...

The Night Santa Went Crazy

Hilarious.

 

No, he thinks its pimpin...

 

Kimmitt also said the insurgents probably used the shell by mistake. ( Esp since they would have wanted to kill people, not scare them )

 

...or give them a runny nose and watery eyes.

 

Sorry to rain on the pro-war parade with facts, but these are the opinions of experts so far:


According to Kay, the man who pushed as hard or harder for us to prove there were WMDs, and campaigned to invade on that basis, this is, and I quote, "irrelevant"

He makes these points, inconvenient for T_J, et al:

This was a degraded weapon probably left over from the Iran Iraq war. Kay said this was never the kind of thing they were searching for in the WMD hunt, as it was an extremely minort leftover which, he siad, it is impossible believe wouldn't be lying around somewhere in any nation which once had an extensive program. He said this was in now way connected to the WMD for war argument.

Furthermore, as Gen. Kimmel himself said, there is absolutely no way to determine where this came from, if it's even from Iraq at all, but more to the point, as he said, it was no longer a viable weapon, and the people using it probably didn't even know it had anything in it.

Kay and other experts all agreed that this had nothing to do with any WMD progemans or violations, and as it was unmarked, had in all probability been lying around somewhere mistaken for a nomal round, unknown to anyone to be chemical ( as is evident in how it was deployed; rendered it useless even if it hadn't been degraded.)

People, all along we have said that the "missing" weapons from a decade ago were easily explained, as every wepons expert agrees. with degradation, loss, and simple paper failure. This is what we have seen here. Trying to make this int; a WMD argument is, at best, silly. But, hey, don't listen to the experts...just watch the liberal news muffling the story...

 

Phew, I am so glad the war has been justified. Now I can go back to focusing on teen pop stars.

 

How many threads have we had where people trumpet with great glee the finding of something that justifies the WMD argument?

I suspect it is the same number of threads where announced discoveries were categorically disproven to have anything to do with WMDs.

And those numbers probably correlate easily with the number of threads where the trumpeters subsequently lapse into silence until the next one.

 

Yeah, this round was such an imminent danger that it took over a year for them to use it on us and it didn't even cause a single significant injury.

This justifies the war almost as much as the "paper pusher" justification y'all have been citing (Saddam failed to document the destruction of the weapons to our satisfaction).

Face it, you are pi$$ing up a rope on this one.

 

...."imminent" provided it isn't 15 years after the expiration date.


" This type of munition only has a limited shelf life and must be carefully monitored."

Tip of the iceberg!

 

For god sakes I hope they check the Turkey farms.

 

Is that the best you can do? The only thing better than your inevitable silence are these desperate responses to this meaningless finding.

 

So we see that the weapon was no longer a WMD threat, and wasn't part of any threatening Saddam WMD arsenal.

Rim said it best. This kind of thing has been trumpeted time and time again. They pop up more often than bogus Rocket's trade threads in the GARM. They carry just as much validity too.

 

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