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Al Queda's Specific Intention to Hit the United States Hard

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, May 26, 2004.

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  1. qrui

    qrui Member

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    sick people everywhere.
     
  2. gifford1967

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    I think that's a fair criticism. I would like to know how the threat level is determined.
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

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    Don't worry, adeelsiddiqui. T_J only wets his pants in hope during happy hour at Treasures!:eek: ;) :D
     
  4. Cohen

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    I was hoping that he was just being sarcastic.
     
  5. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    Maybe they think that by telling of the threat, and showing pictures of the people who could be a threat, or know about the threat, they may be able to get the public's help.

    Why only have a few thousand police and federal officers on the look out, when you can have 270 million people on the look out?

    One of those folks in the picture might just be somebody's neighbor and since they saw their pic on TV, they'll call the authorities. Maybe since they've seen there picture on TV, they'll get nervous and call off their plans to do whatever they were supposed to do...who knows.

    That sounds like a pretty good plan to...wait for it...PREVENT IT.
     
  6. TL

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    That's exactly the rationale that many people who supported the 9/11 attacks used to justify killing American civilians.

    It's ****ing stupid when they do it and it's just as stupid when you do it.
     
  7. mc mark

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    Terror Warning Timing Questioned
    Thursday, May 27, 2004; 10:30 AM

    We don't take much at face value here in Washington, so it shouldn't be a surprise that the Bush administration's warning of a possible terror attack yesterday was greeted with skepticism in some quarters.

    Could it have been an attempt to change the subject away from the grim news from Iraq and the president's drooping poll numbers?

    On CBS's "Early Show" today, Thalia Assuras says: "The question is whether politics played a role. After all, the threat level, despite all the 'credible intelligence chatter' has not been raised. . . .

    "We've heard it all for months now: The U.S. is a target for terrorists. So why this latest frenzy?"

    Richard W. Stevenson and Eric Lichtblau write in the New York Times: "ome opponents of President Bush, including police and firefighter union leaders aligned with Senator John Kerry, the expected Democratic presidential candidate, said the timing of the announcement appeared intended in part to distract attention from Mr. Bush's sagging poll numbers and problems in Iraq.

    "The administration did not raise the terrorist threat advisory from its current level of elevated, or yellow, and the White House said Mr. Bush would not alter his schedule because of security concerns."

    CNN's Dana Bash told Judy Woodruff yesterday: "Judy, as far as their motives go, the Bush team certainly is well aware of the fact that people are questioning their motives and that there's a perception that perhaps that there was a political motive out there.

    "As a matter of fact, they understand it is, people think, perhaps to change the subject on Iraq. I talked to an official about Iraq earlier, called the official and started asking questions about that. And sarcastically the official said, 'Why are you calling me about this? Don't you know that we changed the subject?'"

    Here's an excerpt from a Live Online with Dana Priest of The Washington Post yesterday:

    "Bethesda, Md.: Do you see a manipulation in the timing of the administration's terror warnings -- that they tend to come when things are going badly in Iraq or some other aspect of American politics?

    "Dana Priest: I'm very suspicious, especially of the 'election threat' -- so we didn't write this story for a while, in order to ask a wider range of people and certainly enough non-political types to feel certain we were not being spun."

    Marc Sandalow writes in the San Francisco Chronicle: "Attorney General John Ashcroft's solemn announcement that al Qaeda planned to attack America in the next few months seemed to provoke as much skepticism as fear Wednesday, raising doubts as to whether any terror warnings will be taken seriously in the heat of an election campaign. . . .

    "But with an election five months away and polls showing President Bush's approval ratings slipping below 50 percent on most policy matters except fighting terror, there was rampant speculation that politics had prompted the announcement, thrusting the president's best issue back onto the front page."

    Sandalow writes that "the nation's ambivalence was evident on television screens, where cable stations screamed out 'Breaking News' to report the threat of a catastrophic terrorist attack while the broadcast networks did not interrupt their daytime soap operas to carry the news conference live."

    In a Newsweek.com column, Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball write that "U.S. intelligence officials were privately divided about whether the government had obtained any fresh information that justified such an extraordinary public announcement."

    Richard B. Schmitt and Josh Meyer write in the Los Angeles Times that "White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan denied that politics was involved. 'The president believes it's very important to share information appropriately,' McClellan said. 'We do that in a number of ways when it comes to looking at the threats we face here in the homeland.'"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/administration/whbriefing/
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    So he didn't do enough to prevent 9/11 and now he's doing too much to prevent another 9/11?

    Which is it?
     
  9. mc mark

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    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    I guess you'll have the last laugh :)
    If they ever get to you, just practice saying "You're fired!"
     
  11. NJRocket

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    ummm...no...actually the terrorists could care less if the women and children were out ....but close
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

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    So where do you draw the line between too much and not enough?
     
  13. TraJ

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    Exactly how do you know this?
     
  14. Cohen

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    Do you want him sued by a billionaire? ;)
     
  15. mc mark

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    ima and TraJ I was being cheeky with that comment! :)

    I’ve come to the conclusion at no one on this board is going to change their mind about Jr, one way or the other, so I’m done trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m just going to have fun and let the chips fall where they may.
     
  16. Cohen

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    I did.

    Well more so his Administration, but that's really the relevant issue.
     
  17. MacBeth

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    I actually thought if you ( and Max, to a lesser degree) when I read this.
     
  18. rimrocker

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    My opinion of Bush has declined dramatically. When he was running and even after the SC decision, I though "Ok, this guy will be another in a line of uninspiring GOP Presidents who tinkers on the edge and tries to game the system to favor his folks. I didn't realize he would destroy the country and our standing in the world.
     
  19. rimrocker

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    By the way TJ, your original post was bad enough... the fact that you went out and did some research in an attempt to smear a fellow Rockets fan is beneath contempt.
     
  20. bamaslammer

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    That is just a little out there, don't you think? Who cares if France and Germany like us? They were on the take from Saddam anyhow! So their allegiance, along with Russia's, was bought. Alas it was not enough to save Saddam's hide.

    Now as for this TJ situation, we are in total agreement. I think TJ cracks me up sometimes, but he went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. I might argue with Adeel on Israel/ "Palestine," but I do not think for a minute he is anything but a loyal American and all-around good guy. To even lump him in with the terrorists is tasteless in the least. TJ, you owe him an apology. If not, I've lost all respect I once had for you.
     
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