danny, with all due respect, you must not have seen too many New Yorker posts if you think any thread he takes interest in has a chance of remaining civil. He's on record saying things he doesn't believe and lying about his race, location and job just to instigate arguments. He's a troll.
I think as soon as Gore would be a candidate he'd fall back into his old way as Wooden Gore the candidate. The freedom and lack of pressure let's him be a much more dynamic and activist speaker that he's become.
I can understand why you don't think Guiliani can win NY. It's because you have poop for brains. Let me explain in 4-year old terms. Republicans usually carry upstate, and a dem takes NYC. Because NYC is so populous, it makes New York a blue state. Understand so far? Guiliani though was a popular mayor in NYC. He carried a democratic city many times. Thus in a presidential election, he could win NYC, as well as upstate, and thus beat any democratic. Hillary would be tougher, but I don't think NY is a giveme state for her.
Hillary won NY in a statewide election. It was the whole state that elected and re-elected her as to congress. Rudy doesn't stand a chance no matter who the Dem nominee ends up being.
that elected al gore to the sentae, and that has a democratic governor. i think you don't know **** about tennessee.
A lot of red states have done that sort of thing locally. The fact remains that if winning your home state is a criteria for winning the presidency, you can ex off Rudy and Mitt - the two GOP frontrunners. And if doing something that hasn't been done in a long time (or ever) is a criteria for winning, you can ex off Hillary.
Congrats Al. You deserve it. Here's Josh making the obvious point... Here's two excerpts from the Nobel Committee citation describing why understanding and combating Global Warming is critical to peace: and... Regarding the idiotic discussion about home states... Gore was in the WH for 8 years, which is a lifetime demographically. As an example, Reagan won CA in 1984, but just 8 years later, it was solidly Dem and will be for the foreseeable future. Between 84 and 88, Washington and Oregon both went from solid Repub states to substantially Blue and will stay there. As noted, NY will not vote for Rudy and Mass will not vote for Mitt. Also, Gore running wouldn't split the Dem party. He'd get the nomination and the party would be united going into the general. Hillary has some dedicated support, but overall it's not that deep. Gore would raise millions overnight and start peeling off her support immediately. Of course, he would be ferociously attacked from the right as soon as he announced, but I don't think that would bother him anymore.
Tennessee, like W. Virginia was made a real big target by Rove. While not as important as W. Virginia (which was the real nail in the coffin for Gore, not Florida) this was still a brilliant maneuver by the GOP (Rove).
New York State Board of Elections General Election Results, Certified December 14, 2006 http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/elections/2006/general/2006_ussen.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NYSen06Counties.png
I liked Gore a lot before his stint e/Clinton. He changed quite a bit after that; seems like he tried to learn from Clinton's politcal savvy but it somehow didn't work so well for Gore.
That's the point I was about to make. Thanks to the current administration running this country in the ground, there has been a fundamental shift since 2004. Many of the old assumptions don't apply. Rudy won't come close in NY, but I really don't want anyone to think I'm serious... if Rudy were to pour lots and lots of money and lots of time into NY, he just might be able to do it. Meanwhile stupid Hillary will just be working Ohio and Florida.
I don't think you understand. They both would be running for the entire state. Rudy would likely win NYC, and that might to much of a blow for the dems...even hillary. Hillary hasn't had to face a popular republican in her campaigns. People forget that. She hasn't been tested. Guiliani was a very popular mayor in NYC.
Hate to break this to you but the next president of the United States will be a liberal Democrat. In other words, according to the recent epiphany you've experienced as a result of making a fool of yourself online and being mocked for it, he or she will be anti-American.
Rudy would likely win New York City?!?!?!?! You are so far gone. Rudy has about as good a chance of winning NYC as Hillary does of winning Utah.
And it cost Gore the election. Had he won his homestate, he would be president today most likely. Tennessee isn't a deep southern state, it's not alabama. Anyone who thinks it's a deep red state hasn't been there.
