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Al Franken: The Next Senator from Minnesota?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Feb 14, 2007.

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  1. Sishir Chang

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    Possibly not. On the KSTP the local ABC affiliate they showed the results of a poll they conducted with USA Today that shows Coleman leading Franken 57% to 35%. More troublesome is that among DFL (Democrats) only 65% would support Franken while 90% of Republicans support Coleman.

    Of course there's a long way to go till election day but this isn't a promissing start for Franken.
     
  2. bnb

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    I could never take Franken too seriously after Saturday Night Live.

    Same thing with Gerald Ford.
     
  3. peleincubus

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    i think franken is a joke and ive read 2 of his books
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    Al Franken will be the embodiment of the liberal Hollywood media gone awry.

    He should've stayed in demagogue status.
     
  5. RocketMan Tex

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    Kinky faced more formidable competition than Franken will.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    http://www.mydd.com/
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    So Olbermann got better ratings in a selected demographic for a week when O'Reilly was on vacation? WOW. I've read that O'Reilly's 4:00am RE-RUN outdraws Olbermann's actual show. Impressive for Keith. Face it, all of the Fox News programs ROUTE Olberbann's show. O'Reilly's totally dominates it.
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    I read somewhere that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, at one time or another.

    Don't believe everything you read.

    :D
     
  9. pgabriel

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    conservative talk show topics are geared towards the talk show format. its no different from sports talk with the self righteous talking heads always lambasting athletes with personal problems. I wouldn't put too much stock in the talk show ratings being representative of how the general voting public thinks.
     
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    Why the heck this man man running for office?
     
  11. rimrocker

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    Just announced...
     
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    Great news! I'm a big fan. :cool:



    D&D. Countdown!
     
  13. peleincubus

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    normally the only reason i watch o'reilly usually is because i cant stand him and just want to laugh at the things he says.

    i wonder how many other people do the same thing. guess i should just stick to olderMAN for now on when im watching TV during that time frame
     
  14. giddyup

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    Why is it that FDR is lauded for his fear-based rhetoric when the Japanese attacked tiny little Pearl Harbor out in the Pacific yet this Administration gets lampooned for fear-based rhetoric when a more devastating attack was pulled on New York By God City and the rumors of more like-attacks persist?
     
  15. Master Baiter

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    Japan attacked the US.

    Iraq did not attack the US.

    I don't get why this is such a difficult concept for some people to understand.
     
  16. rimrocker

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    Ugh. More devastating? No. In lives, slightly more, but 9-11 did not destroy a good chunk of our Pacific fleet.

    (For the record:

    9-11: 2,973 deaths and 24 missing, 8 buildings destroyed or damaged.

    Pearl Harbor: 2,402 deaths, 1,238 wounded, 18 ships sunk or severely damaged, including 8 battleships, 263 planes damaged or destroyed.)

    Here's the Pacific in November, 1941...

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    Here's what Europe looked like at about the same time with the Germans in blue...

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    On 9-10 you couldn't fill an NBA arena with Al-Q.

    Also, here is what FDR said on December 8...

    Hardly fear-based rhetoric... much more a leader laying the facts on the table for the American people and rallying folks to the cause with real, not made-up facts. And you have to remember that the US was not even close to being the unchallenged military power we were on 9-11 and it was not a given at all that we would prevail.

    Now, if by fear-based rhetoric, you mean this quote, delivered during his first inaugeral at the apex of the Great Depression...

    ... then you seriously don't understand that this was a message of hope and was received that way by the vast majority of Americans.
     
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    Isn't his most famous quote "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"?

    "More devastating?" Roughly the same number of people died or were injured in both attacks. The 9/11 attacks hit our financial services heavily, but Pearl Harbor saw the majority of our Pacific Navy destroyed. In addition, the Pearl attack brought us squarely into a World War whereas the 9/11 terrorists were not sponsored by a state. I would argue that only a blind partisan would claim that the 9/11 attack was "more devastating" than Pearl Harbor. As devastating perhaps, but more is stretching it.

    Please cite the "fear based rhetoric" that FDR used after Pearl. I can't for the life of me find any.
     
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    I should also point out that FDR explicitly asked for Congress for a Declaration of War, in accordance with the Constitution.
     
  19. rimrocker

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    Great minds....
     
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    In addition to what others have pointed out, I would like to say the FDR's fear based speeches, were dealing with the reality going on in the world. Bush's have been shown time and time again to be at best "inaccurate".
     

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