I'd take AK-47 over Battier in a heartbeat but AK-47 is too expensive. Neither one is really an offensive threat (Bat gets a couple of trey's a game but not much more), but Ak's D is just sick. Anyway, again, the salary would never work...never going to happen.
Battier was really consistent in the Utah series but did not do anything out of the ordinary. On average, AK47 really sucked in that series, but killed us with a couple of shots. Who won the series? As much as I love Shane, I would take AK47 over Battier in a second.
No doubt about Battier being overrated.Kirilenko is a good defender and a fairly decent scorer at times but he needs to play with a good pass first PG since he can't dribble and create his own shot which would decrease his efficacy if he was a Rocket. His inability to do well despite having Deron on the team is because he can't get plays called for him with Boozer and Okur around. How is going to get along with T-Mac,Yao and the new players plus hopefully a motivated Wells?
Lets put it this way, if TMacs back flared up again, who would you rather have on the floor, Kiri or Batman? What benefits do each bring to the table?
LOL. Successful Trade Scenario Congratulations on a successful trade. Due to Houston and Utah being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Utah had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Trade ID Trade ID #4213321 Every trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. Try Another Trade or visit our Trade Forum. Houston Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -17.7 ppg, -5.1 rpg, and -4.6 apg. Incoming Players Andrei Kirilenko 6-9 SF from Russia (Foreign) 8.3 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.9 apg in 29.3 minutes Outgoing Players Bonzi Wells 6-5 SG from Ball State 7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.2 minutes Kirk Snyder 6-6 SG from Nevada-Reno 4.9 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.0 apg in 14.4 minutes Bob Sura 6-5 from Florida State No games yet played in 2006/07 Rafer Alston 6-2 PG from Frenso State 13.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 37.0 minutes
i'm just glad that pryuen didn't post the first AK-47 thread that resides in NBA Dish. He might lose a gasket.
In terms of salary realgm, Trade ID #4213326, says Battier, Alston and Sura for Kirilenko works. A healthy Kirilenko is definitely worth his contract but thats the big question. IMO Kirilenko is a better player than Battier, but at their salaries I'd take a healthy Battier over an oft-injured Kirilenko. Nonetheless I think AK-47 would fit in better with Adelman's Rockets and give more versatility to the team. PG - Francis, James, Brooks SG - Bonzi, Head SF - T-Mac, Kirilenko PF - Scola, Hayes C - Yao, Deke, Butler Snyder, Harris and Reed can be on IR, with Landry and Novak in the D-League. I know its not happening but there is so much versatility with Kirilenko. We can go with a lineup of Francis, T-Mac, AK-47, Scola and Yao, OR go smaller and play T-Mac at SF and AK-47 at PF. I think it comes down to Battier vs. AK-47, and when healthy (big if) I give the nod to Kirilenko. But y'all are right, would Utah even be interested? Battier would fit into Sloan's system, Alston can replace Fisher and Sura is cap relief. Wait maybe this trade makes Utah stronger than we would like...
Yeah, I saw the Francis signing because it was very money-ball. AK-47 doesn't sound like a signing Morey would go after because of the contract value. Battier with his current contract has more value than AK-47 and his contract. Nonetheless Kirilenko has better career numbers in all categories with the exception of turnovers and a lower fg%. I still would like to see him on the Rockets but Morey's not going to be down. It does solve the glut of players we have but I think Daryl likes the excess.
You would have two too many players on the roster (even if you send them to the D-League, they count).
With Tracy, Yao and AK-47 all making the max dollars, our salary cap situation will be screwed for atleast the next 3 years. is Kirilenko worth the money he is getting?. battier is making like 4 times less. he might not have the talent or pedigree Kirilenko has, but he is not that far off on the defensive end. Considering battier also has a better shot and he is'nt a sulking cry baby.
Please no AK47. I know he's pretty good and he hade that fu*kin' 3 in Game 7 but hell no. We don't need him
pls we don't need freakin everyone out there. who came up with AK47 trade idea has no idea what morey trying to do this off season.
Then again it could possibly get the Rockets under LT this season. AK47 = 13.71M for Battier+Alston+Sura+Reed+Lucas+Landry = 16.91M If there is still need to dump salary by the trade deadline they could hock off either Snyder, Novak, Hayes, Butler, or simply waive Harris. That'd be much easier than say trading Rafer.
The Jazz will not trade Kirilenko for these kind of offers. They aren't going to trade him to the Rockets IMO.
AK47 & Yao = soviet bloc I always though yao looked like the chinese version of Ivan Dragoff from Rocky 4 and AK47 looked like Dragoffs skinny little brother.
Well the Rockets would still need throw in a few 1st round picks. Landry is practically a first round pick. Waiving Sura means they're only really taking around 14M back. Alston gives them a genuine backup PG, at the moment they've got PGs like how the Rockets had PGs last season. Battier, we keep on hearing how much he is valued in the league and GM's are always trying to trade for him... They would be getting two starters from a team with a 52 win record.
People are worrying about AK's salary and whether he is worth his salary way too much. This is a trade, so we'll be sending out roughly equal salaries in return. Unless Utah is looking to dump salary, which would mean that we would be sending expiring contracts, the salary cap implications of taking on another max contract are minimal. His contract ends in 2011. Battier also ends in 2011. Other folks we could be trading -- James, Alston, Head -- all end in 2010. A couple possibilities -- Wells, Sura, and Snyder -- end much earlier, but they don't have to be included in an offer if the Rockets want to preserve their ability to shed salary. So, I don't think the size of his salary matters as long as he is worth trading for compared to the talent we'd be sending out.
I can't believe people are still talking about this non-sense. so yeah, we trade away half the team for AK47, will he guarantee we get a championship THIS new season? no, then what the heck we gonna do with our future? even if he can guarantee one championship, we still have problem in future. moving few players equal to AK's contract is easier than moving one huge fat contract. in case see jhoward. took us a while to fine a bidder who was feed up with MJ. mind as well trade the whole team for kobe.
