[AHN] Lebanese Army To Engage Israel If Lebanon Is Invaded]

It's not just those "little" attacks. it is quiet obvious in the last year with ahmadinejads comments about the destruction of isreal and the rescent hezbollah cross border aggression, there is something really sinister taking place. isreal can feel it. this time hezbollah is out for blood. iran is in it's neck with there nucelar problem in the international community. what better way to divert the attention to get it's proxy and ally hezbollah to start a allout war in the region. dont be fooled, iran is is pulling hezbollah's chain. unless a resolution and a cease fire can be reached, this is going to be a very bloody conflict which will gradually involve the other heavy wheights of the region.

 

I think they're definitely a threat to the Israelis, but it's ludicrous to consider this a 'fight for survival' against Hezbollah...Israel is far and away the superior force at work here, the Lebanese are the ones who're 'hanging on' hoping to survive the Israeli onslaught.

I think it's dramatic language, nothing more...

 

Iran is sending it's suicide armies to lebanon. there goal is to start a allout war.the final battel

http://www.iranvajahan.net/english/

 

Israel is not wrong IMO for going after Hez, but the massive attack across all of Lebanon is out of proportion completely. Lebanon had a gov. in place that was sympathetic and did not support Hez -- those feelings are long gone now to the point they will engage Israel to the best of their abilities. This could have been handled in a much better way.

 

Again, hezbollah is iran's proxy. ahmadinejad would love nothing more then to start a regional conflict. his goal is the destruction of isreal. through his proxies hammas, hezbollah, islamic jihad and others, he thinks he can do it.

 

Maybe. they should have tried ti impower the lebaneese army to try to deal with hezbollah first. no doubt. but the lebaneese didnt want to start a civil war. tough situation for all parties concerned to be in.

 

Honestly, I just don't see it that way. The Iranians might be 'talking a good game', but it's strongly doubtful that they are intentionally attempting to provoke a regional conflict which would "involve other heavy weights of the region"...Why? Because any large regional conflict in the Middle East that involves Israel will also involve the United States; there can be no doubt that the U.S. will come to the defense of the Israeli state if their survival was truly at stake. The Iranians know this, the Syrians know it, the Arabs know it, which is why no one risks it.

Moreover, the Iranians would be foolish to believe that Arab 'heavyweights' (i.e. the Egyptians and Saudis) would come to its aid, they view the Iranian military buildup and new-found influence in the region as a 'threat', they don't believe Iran is a friendly nation, at least the Saudis and other Gulf Arab nations don't.

 

When you have a delusional physico-path like ahmadinejad who thinks he is getting orders from god himself, anything is possible. the saudis are continuesly funding hammas, but thats where there involvment stops. what ahmadinejad is trying to do is evoke the emotions of the normal muslim in egypt and saudi and other parts of the region. he wanted this isrealie reply in lebbanon. just to say, see i told you so, this guys are barbaric animals. they'll bomb woman and children. there killing our fellow muslims. he is trying to play the sympathy card. the a certian degree, it's worked wonders. no thanks to the isrealies themselves.

 

Again, what "emotions" is he trying to evoke? The average Arab is already fuming over what he perceives to be an American-Israeli hegemony over the Arab world, which is enabled not only by American/Israeli 'colonial' presence in the region, but even more so through dictatorial Arab leaders who are 'appointed' by the Americans to suppress that anger and 'keep the Arab down'; that's the prevailing view of the average Arab. I don't think anything Iran does will further enrage the Arab street...Why do you think Islamists have been winning/gaining almost every time there is a 'free and fair' election? It's a direct reflection of that anger, and the Arab world is increasingly turning to political Islam (aka 'Islamism') as their rallying, unifying force; this is happening from Morocco to Indonesia, there are signs everywhere you look that Muslim anger is 'boiling over'. The mindset is something along these lines: "We have tried secularism for the past century and look where it got us; we're weak, poor, and pathetic despite our massive human and natural resources. It's time to return back to our former glory, when Islam ruled and united us; 'Al-Islam howa al-hal' (Translation: Islam is the Solution...this is the official motto of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and a variation of this slogan is popping up all over the Muslim-majority world)"

 

Good point^^^. you're addressing the basic problem which creates terrorisim. the terrorist leaders (binladen) use those harbouring hatereds which exsists in the muslim world and use it to there advge. untill there is'nt a fair and final resolution and peace deal is'nt reached over the isrealie palestinian conflict, unfortunately we'll allways have sinister Individuals like ahmadinejad, khomenie, binladen and so on using this conflict to farether there own sinister agendas.

 

Hezbollah soldiers are better and more committed than IDF fighters. Hezbollah will vanquish their enemy if it comes to a war of attrition.

 

I don't know about 'better', but the IDF itself has admitted to how difficult it's to battle Hezbollah fighters, which is largely the reason as to why they're unwilling to undertake a full-scale invasion of southern Lebanon once more. The Israelis are staunch realists, and they know that they have little to gain and much to lose if they invade and attempt to occupy Lebanon; I would trust their assessment.

 

But your examples and this statement totally contradicts your earlier assertion

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How is engaging in political reform to accomodate the demands and even the leadership of insurgents using sheer force to defeat the groups?

What you're saying is that sheer force cannot win a battle with insurgencies because the applicable definition of "sheer" is absolute and utterly but what you're saying is that absolute and utter force cannot win.

 

I think there might be something there to your analysis. Looking at the situation in Lebanon I could't figure out what Hezbollah had to gain by precipitating a crisis with Israel. They had already succeeded in getting Israel out of Lebanon but precipitating a fight with Israel over the Sheba Farms doesn't seem rational or in regard to getting back some Hezbollah prisoners. The only thing I can conclude is either Hezbollah badly underestimated Israel to the point of ludicrousness or else they have some wider motivation.

 

As i said and posted a link earlier. iran and hezbollah are trying to instigate a regional conflict. they feel the americans are stretched in iraq and afghanistan, hence they wont come to isreal's rescue. they feel they are ready to once and for all to takeout isreal. iran has reportedly sent a wave of suicide bombers to lebanan. they'v sent scores of fajir, zelzela and other sophisticated missiles to hezbollah. personally, either the mollahs are naive or they are delusional in thinking they can takeout isreal in such ways..

Isreal is not going anywhere. the sooner people except this fact and start a final peace process which would equate to a long lasting peac solution, the whole world and humanity will be better off.

 

I agree with you that the Mullahs are delusional to think that Israel can be taken out but I'm not sure if that is what they are shooting for. It seems to me, and this is pure speculation on my part, that conflict in Lebanon does take pressure off of Iran's nuclear program by removing the UNSC's focus. The UNSC hasn't shown much of a capability to deal with more than one issue at a time and further since the UNSC is deeply divided regarding issues around Israel this could paralyze them and prevent them from coallescing on action on Iran.

 

Also, i was reading somewhere that iran and hezbollah wanted isreal to attack in such devestating fashion. now there playing the sympathy card to recurit volunteer jihadists to send to lebanan to fight the " Barbaric" isrealies who are killing there muslim brothers and sisters. iran and hezbollah cleverly orchastrated a Trap for the isrealies and they fell for it something crazy.

 

That is the exact reason for this conflict. iran is heading or was heading down a path of confration with the International community over it's nucelar program, but now, the international community has to focus on the isrealie and the hezbollah conflict. hence more time for iran to develope the nuke.