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After last 2 games I have a question about TMac.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by roflmcwaffles, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. ColomboLQ

    ColomboLQ Member

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    Bingo. Every superstar gets double teamed. Every one is tired. That is NOT an excuse, especially for a guy who has missed part of the season and is getting paid to be the man that can rise above any problem when his team needs him. Even when the guy is not getting doubled, he is not attacking but just passing the ball which is why we end up at the end of the shot clock with no time to get a decent shot. Its terrible to watch.
     
  2. ShadyMcGrady

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    T-Mac's dogging it. It sucks to watch but he is. All those lazy turnovers, lazy D, etc. But right now the whole team is a bit tired, you can see guys like Scola and Shane bending over for breathers and barely able to walk to timeouts. I'm not saying they aren't trying harder than t-mac, but they are also tired too.

    I think we have to (1) figure out a way to punish the doubles on T-Mac and (2) find a way to rest before the playoffs.

    I assume we're going to make the playoffs. But the team needs rest, I'm not going to begrudge the team a couple games, so long as they take care of business when it comes to solidifying a spot in the post season.

    Do you agree or not?

    EDIT: The reason I only expect a post sesaon spot, and not first seed, top 4, etc. is because we are without YAO freaking MING. If you don't think this team has over-achieved the past 10 games (discounting the easy teams) then i'm sorry but this tough 5 game stretch is a reality check.
     
  3. BroadwayBelm

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    he's not being lazy. The guy just isn't as fast as you think he is, so people keep up with him and it's good defense. He's having a tough time drawing separation. Now 1 on 1 his first dribble is still stick, but it's tough with other people.


    He's not as fast as he was 4years ago.
     
  4. Jeff Who

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    Novak, Aaron, Head - give them more playing time.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    tmac IS trying. can we stop making assumptions?

    this board has the same people who said tracy faked that knee injury, the same type of knee injury that has caused landry to miss A TON of time now.

    this board also said tracy had chemistry problems with his teammates and yet he came back and integrated with ease.

    please, he's struggling mightily right now. the team is struggling. why can't we just say that?
     
  6. ShadyMcGrady

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    Struggling might only be part of it. Do you think he really is giving it his all? I don't think so. If he is, then he's about to fall over sometime soon from exhaustion. If you watched the Hornets game, there were plenty of times where everyone on the team had to bend over and suck air, or walk gingerly to the bench and flop down onto a chair. It's not just T-Mac. Everyone had lazy turnovers and passes.

    Everyone's tired and all the teams have figured us out. We are going to have to find a way to get over it. There is only a month until the playoffs. We need to get ready. If you think T-Mac is trying than I won't be suprised by us getting sweeped in the post season.
     
  7. Jeff Who

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    Ok so let's face it, let's say it straight : The whole team is stuuggling. Not only McGrady. THE WHOLE TEAM.

    I also think McGrady was trying the other night against Hornets but there was nothink for him. You can't do much if you have nobody who can make shoots and you are guarded pretty well. You can't do much.

    Deke, Hayes, Harris - biggest Adelman's mistake this season
     
  8. ktvoss

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    The "Tracy is Tired " excuse always backfires. He was tired 4th quarter in game 7 versus Utah. GAME 7!!! Loser's mentality bottom line. If you are a Rockets fan don't expect nothing from Tracy, but there is nothing wrong with expecting the rockets to win as a team eventhough Tracy is a very important piece. If you look at Tracy individually and depend on his heart... your heart will eventually become like his WEAK!!!
     
  9. Rockets4279

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    The whole team suffers when they force T-Mac to give up the ball on the perimeter without any penetration. He cant penetrate do to smothering defense that pressures him to pass it. Look in the second half 0 assist.
    Trading him is not the answer he simply needs a real playmaking point guard.

    Alston is not the answer at point guard look at his assist it comes off making the extra pass do to T-Mac penetrating.

    Rockets need to get a point guard that does everything Jose Calderon does and T-Mac will be fine this takes pressure off him and enables him to score without creating for himself or for others.
     
  10. hulk

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    Unmotivated T-Mac => No Heart and No Guts and No Shame.
     
  11. harryrms

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    He wasn't lazy on offense. He tried hard for three quarters and part of the
    final quarter. However, he was a little lazy on defense. Several times, he
    walked over to the player he was guarding.
    Tmac seems to give up when there is little hope. I guess most people would
    do that so you really cant single him out on that. But I just hope that he
    can be a guy who never gives up. Maybe I am asking too much. :(

    Harry

     
  12. Rockets4279

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    Its quite obvious Rockets need another player who can get others involved other then T-Mac with this added option opposing defenses can no longer key in on T-Mac on the perimeter to force him to pass the ball. When teams do this our mega super role players and T-Mac as a whole team suffers.

    Nobody on our team other than T-Mac can get his team mates involved.

    Alston is good off the bench but he is no playmaker at all not even close.

    Rockets need a guy who can keep his dribble alive weaving in and out of the paint looking for open shooters or slashers or hitting T-Mac off screens where he is unstoppable and Alston does not bring this which result in a failed system.

    The offense starts with T-Mac and when teams take him out of the equation they system becomes a failure.
     
  13. liberty

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    Ok, please tell us when wouldn't T-mac feel tired. Let's see what happen then. Don't tell us he will be tired for rest of season.
     
  14. Rockets4279

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    Alston is only about bringing the ball up the court and passing to the big man in the high post or shooting 3 pointers or settling for floaters. He does not make his team mates better. And the Rockets do not have anybody else outside of T-Mac who makes his team mates better.
     
  15. skip to my lou

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    LMAO rafer penetrates more than jose calderon i think calderon is scared of the paint but he is a way better outside shooter but to say he is on steve nash level just shows how many people actually watch basketball games
     
  16. T.Mcgrady

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    Yep, being doubled constantly - having someone shadow you as soon as you get a step on your defender - and being blitzed on the pick and roll means that McGrady is being lazy?

    From Rick Adelman's own mouth:
     
  17. Rockets4279

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    Calderon is the closest thing to Steve Nash you will see he does this with only 31 minutes a game? If he was playing 35-36 minutes and in this offense wow just imagine the damage. Someone who puts up the best assist to turnover ratio in the league on the Toronto Craptors is saying alot.
     
  18. PigMiller

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    How about not sealing Peja freaking Stojakovic (hardly a defensive player) on the high post and allowing him to go over his shoulder to get steals?

    How about getting outrun on the fast break by the same Peja freaking Stojakovic?

    Do we classify that as hustle?
     
  19. pmac

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    I've been trying tell people this for a long time, when he has good games its just because his jumpers are falling. He has almost no atheleticism now (compared to other stars).

    Its amazing how much more intelligent this board gets when you ignore the posts that have foul language and discuss how someone is lazy, soft, heartless, a knucklehead...

    I think we would all benefit from more analysis that doesn't fall so heavily on someone having or lacking intangibles when we have no way of confirming that.
     
  20. skip to my lou

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    but he doesnt get that off of penetration though he get's assist mostly off of chris bosh and hitting open shooters and since bosh has been out his stats have dropped by a pretty good margin. im not saying he is or isnt better than rafer but to act like he is steve nash jr is totally false
     

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