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After giving out 43 mill a year to our new franchise player is this a playoff team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Jun 30, 2023.

  1. Believe It!

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    Sign Lopez and package KJ and Porter for a 3&D starting wing and I believe we would definitely be in next year. Get it done Stone.
     
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    My gut instinct is to still say "no," but there are a lot of variables in play here that make this hard to predict. This team has a ton of young talent and at any point, one of them could make the leap to All-Star. If Jalen, Sengun or Jabari do this season, that could be the missing piece. Then there's the impact of Udoka and his coaching staff, which is really hard to quantify in terms of wins. And the Rockets still have cap room and time to make more moves, so the roster is far from over.

    Probably not there yet even with 1-2 more additions. But given the low bar for play-in teams, you can't rule it out either.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    We mainly got killed at the perimeter.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    We will be a contender.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    The team is still young. Unless we get a superstar, we are still a season or two off Playoffs
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    thread needs a poll, OP
     
  8. rocketchamp

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    No. We paid him to be a leader. Jalen will benefit the most from a true pg, but so will Jabari & our other role players. He's the adult Udoka wanted
     
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  9. Jayzers_100

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    We have to spend even more just to meet the 90% salary floor under the collective bargaining agreement.
     
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    It is only the 1st day of FA, I doubt you have to spend within a week.

    Not that I give that much of a darn if they sign Harden, Vleet or Kyrie.....or Monte Morris......

    People draw Satan on the board with Silas and now draw an Angel named Ime Udoka.

    I doubt it is that black and white, Ime is better than Silas but I doubt it would reflect that much in win percentages.
     
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  11. AroundTheWorld

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    We will be a contender.

    Alpi 20/12/7
    Jalen 26/4/4
     
  12. JW86

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    Sign Brooks and some other small time players - no
    Sign Lopez - play-in
    Sign Lopez & trade for an actual good veteran - yes
     
  13. J.R.

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    So now the expectations for this upcoming season are play-in tournament or bust. You do not pay Harden $47 million if you’re content just being the 12th seed.

    After giving out 47 mill a year to our old franchise player is this a playoff team?

    *worst team 3 years in a row*
    *team gives out a contract I don’t like so now I’m placing unrealistic expectations on them*

    “Playoffs or bust!”

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Rocket River

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    I kind of agree.
    Not 100% but we should be contending for play in....we best not be low lotto bound.

    Harden may have guaranteed a play in game
    But what's that....unless their is growth

    We decided in growth
    A 40 million dollar 20/7 guy is the guy to do it?
    We will see.

    i remember some football player talking about homself.

    Coach If you need a yard......I will get ya 3
    Coach if you need 10 yards....I will get ya 3

    is this Fvv? 20/7. ....that's his ceiling...that's his floor???

    Rocket River
     
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  15. daywalker02

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    Growth (esp. in the beginning of a rebuild) is something you cannot measure in wins or losses IMHO at least not in the traditional sense not with borderline All Star vets.

    When you are bad, you have a direction to pick in the Top 5 if there is not bad luck.

    But with mediocrity, I do not know what is the measure.....making the Playoffs?

    I checked Udoka's record, he did well in elimination games but his Celtics only won 51-31.

    He is not experienced enough to talk guaranteed wins either.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    Double post.

    Rocket River
     
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  17. ac in austin

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    Maybe not this year. Coaching definitely matters though. There is a universal truth how talent becomes excellence.

    You need to be pushed and held to a standard everyday. FVV got this bag cause he grinds. If Green and Jabari work as hard as FVV has the last five years they will be better than FVV is now.

    The idea is that Ime knows what that level of commitment looks like and can get the players to strive for it or kick them to the curb if they aren’t willing.

    It is a delicate balance. The players know that they make twice as much as the coach and their talent is what’s really valuable. They’ve been coddled their whole life so it can be easy to coast.

    Silas was so obviously bad that the expectations of the new guy are outsized. These guys aren’t going to become good players in one off season.

    They can try harder though. It would be nice if it looked like they had practiced an offensive set before. Get back on defense or sit on the bench.

    The kind of things any decent high school coach would demand.
     
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  18. Easy

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    Waiting for Sengun fans vs VanVleet fans. A few KPJ fans might leave the fold.

    Seriously, we need TWO franchise players or four to make the playoffs.
     
  19. Hemingway

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    Stop it with your overwhelming optimism. You’re killing me.
     
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  20. JohnWoo713

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    Okc will be good and they have our pick….. lost season for nothing and stuck with a guy who’s contract is higher than his fg%
     

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