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AFI's top Heroes/Villains

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Fatty FatBastard, Jun 3, 2003.

  1. Band Geek Mobster

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    Since I'm such a great guy, I thought I'd copy this out over here.

    My complaints are in bold...

    <u>Heros</u>
    1. Atticus Finch - To Kill a Mockingbird
    2. Indiana Jones - Raiders
    3. James Bond - Dr. No
    4. Rick Blaine - Casablanca
    5. Will Kane - High Noon
    6. Clarice Starling - Silence of the Lambs
    7. Rocky Balboa - Rocky
    8. Ellen Ripley - Aliens
    9. George Bailey - It's a Wonderful Life
    10. T.E. Lawrence - Lawrence of Arabia
    11. Jefferson Smith - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
    12. Tom Joad - The Grapes of Wrath
    13. Oskar Schindler - Schindler's List
    14. Han Solo - Star Wars
    15. Norma Rae Webster - Norma Rae
    16. Shane - Shane
    17. Harry Callahan - Dirty Harry
    18. Robin Hood - Adventures of Robin Hood
    19. Virgil Tibbs - In the Heat of the Night
    20. Butch & Sundance - Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
    21. Ghandi - Ghandi
    22. Spartacus - Spartacus
    23. Terry Malloy - On The Waterfront
    24. Thelma and Louise - Thelma and Louise
    25. Lou Gehrig - Pride of the Yankees
    26. Superman - Superman
    27. Woodward and Bernstein - All the President's Men
    28. Juror #8 - 12 Angry Men
    29. Gen. George Patton - Patton
    30. Luke Jackson - Cool Hand Luke
    31. Erin Brockovich - Erin Brockovich (Shouldn't even be on this list)
    32. Philip Marlowe - Big Sleep
    33. Marge Gunderson - Fargo
    34. Tarzan - Tarzan the Ape Man
    35. Alvin York - Sergeant York
    36. Rooster Cogburn - True Grit
    37. Obi-Wan Kenobi - Star Wars
    38. The Tramp - City Lights
    39. Lassie - Lassie Come Home (Shouldn't even be on this list)
    40. Frank Serpico - Serpico
    41. Arthur Chipping - Goodbye, Mr. Chips
    42. Father Edward - Boys Town
    43. Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle - The French Connection
    44. Zorro - Mark of Zorro
    45. Batman - Batman (Should be Higher)
    46. Karen Silkwood - Silkwood
    48. Terminator - T2
    49. Andrew Becket - Philadelphia
    50. Maximus - Gladiator

    <u>Villains</u>
    1. Lecter - Silence of the Lambs
    2. Norman Bates - Psycho
    3. Darth Vader - Empire
    4. Wicked Witch of the West - Wizard of Oz
    5. Nurse Ratched - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
    6. Mr. Potter - It's a Wonderful Life
    7. Alex Forrest - Fatal Attraction
    8. Phyllis Dietrichson - Double Identity
    9. Regan MacNeil - Exorcist
    10. The Queen - Snow White (Shouldn't be this high)
    11. Michael Corleone - Godfather 2
    12. Alex De Large - Clockwork Orange
    13. Hal 9000 - 2001
    14. Alien - Alien
    15. Amon Goeth - Schindler's List
    16. Noah Cross - Chinatown
    17. Annie Wilkes - Misery
    18. The Shark - Jaws
    19. Captain Bligh - Mutiny on the Bounty
    20. Man - Bambi (Shouldn't be on the list)
    21. Mrs. John Iselin - Manchurian Candidate
    22. Terminator - Terminator
    23. Eve Harrington - All About Eve
    24. Gordon Gekko - Wall Street
    25. Jack Torrance - The Shining
    26. Cody Jarret - White Heat
    27. Martians - The War of the Worlds
    28. Max Cady - Cape Fear - (Should be higher)
    29. Reverend Harry Powell - The Night of the Hunter
    30. Travis Bickle - Taxi Driver
    31. Mrs. Danvers - Rebecca
    32. Bonnie and Clyde - Bonnie and Clyde
    33. Count Dracula - Dracula
    34. Dr. Szell - Marathon Man
    35. J.J. Hunsecker - Sweet Smell of Success
    36. Frank Booth - Blue Velvet
    37. Harry Lime - The Third Man
    38. Caesar Enrico Bandello - Little Caesar
    39. Cruella De Vil - 101 Dalmations
    40. Freddy Krueger - Nightmare on Elm Street
    41. Joan Crawford - Mommie Dearest
    42. Tom Powers - The Public Enemy
    43. Regina Giddens - The Little Foxes
    44. Baby Jane Hudson - Whatever Happened to Baby Jane
    45. The Joker - Batman (The WORST PICK!)
    46. Hans Gruber - Die Hard (Should be a lot higher)
    47. Tony Camonte - Scar Face (Higher)
    48. Verbal Kint - Usual Suspects (Much Higher)
    49. Auric Goldfinger - Goldfinger
    50. Alonzo Harris - Training Day

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    Joker should be top 10, maybe even top 5!
     
  2. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    I agree with your complaint.
     
  3. wouldabeen23

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    What about Braveheart???
     
  4. Preston27

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    I completely agree with the Princess Bride thing. Inigo Montoya should have been top 30 at least.

    By the way, I don't really think Luke should be #1 hero, but at least to 10. Unless they don't like characters that kiss their sister.
     
  5. Pipe

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    To Kill a Mockingbird is my favorite book and I am one of the chosen few who have seen the movie. I even have a dog named Scout.

    I am not over 50 (yet), but Fatty FatBastard has me in the Geritol set. :mad: ;)

    Superb choice! :D

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  6. Vengeance

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    Another one I was wondering about is why the guys from Pulp Fiction weren't on the Villians list. I'd put Jules and Vincent up there . . .
     
  7. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Clarice Starling #6? :rolleyes:
     
  8. 3fingeredgus

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    I think young skywalker was too busy complaining to Uncle Owen about the power converters...
    I also think Verbal (Kevin Spacey) should be a lot higher..
     
  9. mateo

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    I remember being 9 and my Dad sat us down and "forced" us to rent To Kill A Mockingbird.

    Amazing movie, amazing book.

    Good pick for #1.

    If you havent seen this movie you are missing something.
     
  10. MadMax

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    That's why I think he should make the list....what he grew to be.
     
  11. Band Geek Mobster

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    The way I take thiis Top 100 list is that it's based on a single movie. (Notice Han and Obi Wan are given credit for Star Wars, while Darth gets it for Empire) Which single movie was Luke a Top 50 hero in? The closest might be Jedi, but he really wasn't that awesome of a hero even in that movie. He might be a hero for all 3 movies combined, but on a single movie basis, he isn't...at least according to AFI.
     
  12. MadMax

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    he's a classic epic hero. i wrote a paper in high school ( a LONG time ago) comparing Beowulf, MLK, and Luke Skywalker as epic heroes. All exhibited the characteristics of traditional epic heroes.

    Luke in Jedi is VERY much the hero. I'd put him ahead of Obi-Wan everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Ultimately "rescuing" his own father....destroying the emperor/empire....the ONLY jedi left....resisting his own temptations toward hatred/dark side....his final scenes fighting Vader and interacting with the emperor are great. his character grew more in that one scene than obi-wan's did in all of the movies combined! compare that to Ellen Ripley, who was a hero to survive?? or erin brokovich?? or Tarzan?? all those made the list...and Luke didn't. that's just silly.

    *EDIT* -- this is easily the nerdiest post I've ever made here.
     
  13. Band Geek Mobster

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    That Erin Brockovich pick really pisses me off...

    I have no problem with Ripley though...one of the best female action movie heros of our time...
     
  14. A-Train

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    Gee, Luke only saved the entire galaxy from being ruled by the Republic in Star Wars, blew up an AT-AT Walker on Hoth in Empire, and saved Han Solo's dumb ass from Hutt's layer in Jedi...Yeah, I'd like to see Han Solo jump off a diving board, grab onto it, spring back up, do a somersalt, then land back on the diving board...

    Man, the things some guys have to do to get a little recognition....
     
  15. moestavern19

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    no Shooter McGavin?

    That guy was pure evil.

    Christopher MacDonald rules.
     
  16. subtomic

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    Another great hero and villain pair that they missed:

    Peter and Lumbergh from Office Space
     
  17. Relativist

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    I wasn't as riled about the omission of Luke as some people, but I can see more of a case for him now. But you have to take the trilogy as a whole.

    I was interested to see Michael Corleone on the Villains list for Godfather 2. I was thinking where Michael Corleone from the original Godfather should be. He's both hero and villain, depending on how you look at it. That's part of what makes the movie so great. His character should definitely be on a list of great characters.

    One villain I've always liked is Kevin Spacey's character from Seven. I think that movie made me a fan of Kevin Spacey.
     
  18. moestavern19

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    what about James Cromwell in L.A. Confidential.


    No one saw that coming.
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    Relativist: Contrary to what has been posted, anyone who watched the show knows that the Heroes/Villains were rated for their entire work.

    Like Dracula: They showed clips from 1920-1990.

    With Batman: they showed every Batman Movie.

    With Bond: they showed every Bond actor (all 5-6 of em)

    With Indy Jones: they showed the entire trilogy.

    This was about entire ensembles. (Which is why Luke is wrong.)

    And I guess I'll have to see "To Kill A Mockingbird" But I seriously doubt he beats out my greatest hero's.

    (And William Wallace is, and will always be in my top three, if not #1. A HUGE absence in the top 100.)
     
  20. JeeberD

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    To Kill A Mockingbird is a great, great, great movie. If you haven't seen it, go rent it today. Not only is there the great performance by Gregory Peck, but the movie was Robert Duvall's screen debut as well (see if you can find him).

    Fantastic movie...
     

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