So let me get this straight... people with pre-existing conditions should either pay for health care out of pocket, or purchase insurance through expensive high-risk pools such as what Texas offered pre-ACA (ie. charged me $500/month for minimal basic health insurance), or go to currently non-existent "second-tier free health clinics" that are paid for by taxpayers. These "second-tier free health care clinics" (just naming them second-tier should make people want to rush to get care delivered there, eh?), will they attract high-quality doctors and nurses? And be outfitted with state of the art diagnostic equipment? No, I didn't think so. Amazing someone would trot out such an idea which further increases the quality of life gap between the very wealthy and those who are not.
It actually did deal with the cost. What dolts like yourself don't realize is that costs would be even higher without ACA. It should be called the SMACA though - somewhat more affordable health care rather than ACA.
Or you or your partner could get group health care like the majority of people in the United States with health insurance.
In my current case, I do have insurance through my employer when I was hired in after ACA became law, thus my daughter's pre-existing condition did not prevent my daughter or entire family from getting insurance. Probably one reason I am in favor of ACA. Prior to ACA I was between jobs, and while I tried to purchase insurance for my family (including my daughter),but no insurance company would insure my daughter and many wouldn't even cover my family because of my daughter's pre-existing condition. I ended up buying on-line insurance for my family, but had to buy separate health insurance for my daughter through the Texas High Risk pool at $500/month. So I clearly see the value of ACA. And I also am very familiar with the cost challenges of getting insurance through a state-run high risk pool. I was fortunate we lead a pretty frugal lifestyle and had savings to cover the monthly costs of purchasing insurance as I did, but it did put a huge dent in my savings and even retirement money and I suspect many other people faced with purchasing insurance like that wouldn't be so fortunate. So that's why I know suggesting that people with pre-existing conditions. Paying completely out of pocket is virtually impossible, and high-risk pools are cost prohibitive for many people. And the "second tier free health clinics"?
Aetna CEO: Obamacare in 'Death Spiral' For those pushing to keep Obamacare, Its gonna be gone no matter what. its dying on its own. Which everyone told you would happen. Learn from your mistakes, and get on board pushing for a real solution.
they have presented lots of plans, you mean they need to agree on a plan. That's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that 'keeping Obamacare' is not an option. Even if you like it, that is irrelevant.
Or wait until you have heart attack and then have emergency operation for example, yes that is so much better.
This is important to remember, Obamacare was such a massive failure of legislation that it is set to collapse all by itself just a few years after the full legislation went into effect. This legislation is what the previous administration thought was so important that they had to bribe members of their own party with millions upon millions in pork just to get it passed in the first place due to how little support there was for this disaster. Which only makes it worse when people talk about how we should just change to a much more expensive version of Obamacare in order to "fix" things. It was foolish from the start.
ok, how about "fixing Obamacare"? is that not an option? The GOP has had a few years to agree on a plan, and I'm sure the party is filled with plenty of competent, smart people. I just want to see their plan. Details. You can't just REPEAL it and replace it with NOTHING.
It's kind of a big deal though, it should take some time. I mean, jumping into a really really stupid plan without even reading what it was is what got us Obamacare which was fundamentally flawed from the start, so much so that it is set to collapse upon itself already. The solution isn't the Republicans making the same mistake the Democrats did. They should take their time and make sure whatever is done is well thought out and not just another half baked BS piece of legislation.
That would require admitting Obamacare needs fixing and the left figuring out what they got wrong. DO you know what you got wrong in supporting Obamacare? I never hear the left explain what they got wrong about Obamacare that it failed so quickly. All i hear is 'why aren't the GOP fixing it?' But never a reason to agree on a plan until now. Why would any of them compromise when nothing could be passed? go look them up. Rand Paul has presented one, Jeff Flake. Paul Ryan. plenty of others. You can if what we had before was better...... Or if no Obamacre is better than Obamacare. Just a reminder, before Obamacare, 85% of the population had health insurance and 90% of those people were happy with their plans.
Obamacare needs fixing, like everything. First things to fix: 1.) Undo everything the Republicans did to sabotage it.
It was fundamentally flawed from the start, and NONE of that is the Republicans fault, Obamacare was 100% Democrats only. The only way to "fix" it would be to completely get rid of it and forget it ever existed in the first place. It's like saying you want to "fix" chlamydia.
I agree its a pretty big deal....homeboy, they have had YEARS to Agree on what to do once they gained full control of the government. Not hours, not days, not even a few months. YEARS. These guys are lawyers and businessmen right? The brightests of the GOP? WTF is taking them so long....it shows one of two things 1. They're split over what to actually DO on Obamacare, Highly likely, they realize that there are some good parts of Obamacare but just won't be men enough to admit it, and then the tea party part of the party wants to completely repeal and not do anything, pretty much fighting between themselves, or 2. The GOP is just full of idiots and they have no plan, LOL, i hope not
The Democrats were also split on what to do, it's why they had to bribe fellow Democrats with port just to get Obamacare passed to begin with. It's difficult to get everyone to agree on something as big as health care reform (or merely health insurance reform like Obamacare). You can either do it fast, or do it right, but you can't do both. We've seen what happens when you do it fast, and it's a total disaster.
I already answered you above. they have had no reason to compromise with each other on anything. If by end of this year, they haven't passed a plan then i would be concerned. I'm not right now. OF course. So are the Democrats. Luckily for democrats, they dont have to present any solutions and nobody really wants them to after the Obamacare mess. Democrats can just sit back and whine 'why haven't you guys fixed it yet?'
