Revisionist b.s. Luther was in the rotation after the second game. NO INJURIES. If JVG disliked Hayes so much, why did he play in EVERY SINGLE GAME after we resigned him? I love your neutrality on Adelman after you whined all last season that he was the perfect coach for this team.
Hmmm talk about revisionist history....I wanted JVG gone, but I don't believe I ever called Rick Adelman the perfect coach..... I am happy with the direction he is taking the team though, and how he is breaking the horses so to speak. DD
DD, don't make me pull up at least 20 comments where you said Adelman was the perfect coach for this team last season when we still had JVG. It's too easy to do and I don't want to be "that guy". It's easy to seach b/c I remember you mispelled his name frequently And yes, I remember you being anti-JVG all last season, and he didn't get us out of round one...and though I liked him as our coach, even I admitted that we needed a change.
Blake, I am not the one who brought it up. I really can't recall saying that. However I do prefer Adelman to JVG, even at 20-19. Time will tell if he is the perfect choice or not. To me...Rudy T is the perfect choice...not Rick Adelman. DD
Adleman might just try for once putting all his highest percentage shooters in the game at the same time to see what would happen. I think that Novak and Brooks might just maybe open things up inside for Yao. Also playing Landry and Scola and the forward positions might be interesting too.
Then what's with the "It's time" crap? What happened to winning now? So all of sudden now that we have a bad record, it takes time? That's not what it was when we first signed Rick. We had championship dreams, even some of the media had us in the Top 3 teams. This team had high expectations. I'm sure everyone knew we would go through a little adjustment period but not as bad as it has been. It's just the coach, and it's not just the players, everyone has to take to blame for this one.
I posted the following message in another thread yesterday, now, I want to post it here again to answer your question. Rox wasn't a good western conference team, last year. So isn't Rox in this year. JVG built this team in the last 4 years, clearly, he can get the max out of this team (most players are JVG's favorite). It takes time for Adelman to build his own team. Many of you just say how great the 52 wins is. Lets take a look. last season total: 52W/30L vs western teams: 28W/24L vs western playoff teams: 10W/16L vs eastern teams: 24W/6L Rox was the worst western conference playoff team, who can only win in the east, but not west. JVG could be a good coach in the east, but not west. I don't know how good Adelman is, but I'm sure he is better than JVG . .
DD, really...you are getting ridiculous. Sometimes I'm not sure if you are being serious or just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's just hilarious how everything JVG was somehow not really him. All his accomplishments, somehow had nothing to do with him. All the players and personnel, are magically everything he didn't want. Yes, hayes was let go. And rightfully so because at the time he wasnt needed and there were better options. (if Baxter (i think that was his name) was a pretty good player for s short while). Regardless, JVG may not have "wanted" him (which is pure speculation) but he did PLAY him! which is the most important thing where are those quotes from jvg about luther? just curious if you actually have an article or you are just re-writing history. I could imagine jvg saying luther has a lot to overcome to be a nba player, which is totally correct, but once again "didnt want him"...? where do you get this stuff ? seriously, im really asking amazed at the transformation of novak under adelman? he's played 30 total minutes all season! the only significant difference of novak is that he doesnt look like a rookie anymore.
thats the problem. This franchise cant sit around and wait for a team to be built. This team was on the cusp and just needed some extra depth and talent to add to it. It does take time for a new coach to get things how he would like...but the rockets don't have time! time is passing us by. Yao's in his prime and tmac is hanging onto his career by a thread. 10-16 vs playoff teams...makes sense since Utah, jazz, spurs, mavs and goldenstate were all better than the rockets. (GS just has the rockets number)
JVG was talking about Luther on the radio show, late in his rookie year. Novak looks much more comfortable....and less like running around like a chicken. As for JVG, I don't think people realize how much damage the guy did to the Rockets, sure he built his type of team that could be fairly successful in the regular season, but he was never going to compete in the playoffs with the team he hand picked. Now you may not agree, and I can respect that. To me a coach has to win now but develop players for the future at the same time, and he has to trust that they will make mistakes and put them back in after explaining their mistakes. I think he horribly mismanaged a potential quality asset in V-Span by not having a plan or agreeing with managements plan. I think he let Boki go for nothing because of a personal vendetta..... I think it boils down to style for me, I do not appreciate JVG's management style nor his coaching techniques. And I disagree vehemetly that this team was EVER going to compete under JVG, they were not on the cusp, they were a team built to do ok in the regular season and wilt in the playoffs. DD
Hey, 52 wins is 52 wins no matter how you look at it. You can't knock JVG's regular season success. You also failed to mention that we got a lot of those 52 wins when Yao was out. Let me remind you that many thought we were going to fold when the big man went down. We definitely did not fold. So yeah, that 52 wins were pretty great compared to difference in talent between the two rosters. I'm not saying Rick the Ruler is a bad coach or we should fire him. But just based on the regular season so far, I don't see how he's doing better than what JVG did.
I agree 100%. JVG failed in the playoffs and was rightfully fired. I just get agitated that he got SO much criticism, people still MAKE UP things about his tenure here, yet give RA a free pass when he is doing a pretty terrible job coaching us this year. I agree RA needs a whole season to determine if in fact he is as bad as our mediocre record indicates, but so far he has shown me nothing. Let's hope the ship gets righted soon and we actually lock up a playoff seed. He deserves to be fired if we don't at least get the 8 seed. This team was supposed to improve, but all it has done is regressed, with a much better bench. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a while now, but we are almost halfway done with this season and not only do we lose to teams we lost to last year, we are getting slapped by teams we used to crush And I'll say it again, I am definitely pulling for Mike Harris to somehow play on our team at some point.
right...no legit source to prove anything. i see agree. he was not nba ready last year. that being said, he still isnt very good this year. wait a minute. So first you say that he didnt want luther, hayes and whoever else you add in that mix...NOW you are saying he "hand picked" it? Double standard DD I don't think people realize how little jvg and the rockets franchise as a whole had to work with. This franchise was almost crippled by horrible signings and drafts of the late 90's and early 00s. Just go back and look at those teams for giggles. well we arent winning now. we did win and develop a few guys, like hayes, luther and this guy called yao. still holding onto the hope of vspan huh? not much i can say about that but just laugh. Boki? what personal vendetta? and who freaking cares. Boki has a handfulof good games last year and now he's some key lost piece? the dude is average on a good day. rockets sure could use his sub .400 fg %.. i know. the same style and techniques used by riley, pop and LB. well congrats. now they just wilt during the regular season
