Adelman vs JVG

Okay sorry I meant barely above .500

And for anyone who says we have to wait till the end of the season to see if this was a bad move or not. I promise you we dont have to wait!! He is not a good coach for our team.

I am sick and tired of waiting till next year and then being dissapointed.

 

I think Adleman was nearly fired in his first season with the Kings. They were pathetic and then a late season surge got them into the playoffs. The rest is history from there. I am only hoping that this Rocket's team gets the Adleman system fast.

 

More maddening is that you change your mind every five seconds as to what the patj to success is. Up tempo, D'antoni, Nelson, now it's slow it down Popovich and his long bench (long bench helped by the fact that they have much better players).

I'm putting the over-under as to when you want to bring in a defensive minded disciplinarian at 10 months.

 

Uh, yeah, wtf ever, nothing you have said in your previous post is even remotely accurate, you are like George W talking about Iraq's involvment in the hijakings.

You think you say something enough it makes it true.....NOT.

I have not changed my mind one iota about JVG, Rick Adelman, or Popovich.

But, apparently you have a difficult time understanding context...AGAIN....

Popovich plays his long bench because he KNOWS that keeping his starters fresh makes it better at winning time......I LIKE THAT...

JVG and Rick Adelman seem to both overplay their starters and it cost the team games.......I HATE THAT......(And as I said, I don't know if Rick Adelman is the answer, but am willing to give him time....I DO know for certain that JVG was NOT the answer though....big difference.)

And if you had paid even the remotest attention you would know that I think Popovich is the best coach in the NBA.....remember, he played a 19 year old EURO PG ......his rookie year....

THAT...is a coach who knows what is best for the team, now...AND in the future.

DD

 

I'm waiting for the treasured chestnut about how you "like good offense AND good defense!" - now that's a deep bench.

Mike D'Antoni sends his love back to you....from his short bench.....to your short bus.

 

How many championships had Mike D'Antoni won? How did him wearing out his starters during the regular season work out for him?

Exactly.

And for the record I like a good balance of offense and defense, you need both to win.....

DD

 

he also wanted to trade said 19 year old pg for an older pg named jason kidd. he traded barbosa. he traded scola. lets face it, they have made some great moves...the best being tanking games when robinson was hurt and they got duncan in the draft.

 

The Rockets tanked to get Hakeem, and Ralph.....and it worked out ok here too.

And ultimatly Pop chose to NOT try to sign Kidd when he was a free Agent...and....well, it was the right choice.

DD

 

and the biggest mistake pop made was letting vspan go back to europe when he could have led them to 12 straight championships...

 

I guess we will have to wait to see if he ever comes back to find out -nothing has changed in my opinion about him at all.....

 

hayes head lucas

 

You know, i'm cool with being patient and hoping that the return of T-Mac will kind of make everything come together. Adelman deserves at the very least one year before he is evaluated. I'm fine with that.

The thing that really gets me though is just knowing that we wouldn't be in this position under JVG.

Adelman's coaching has been the epitome of mediocre so far......

If you think about it we really haven't won many "close" games. By close, I mean by games that were actually back-and-forth that came down to the last few plays instead of just damage control off of blown 4th quarter leads.

Where are the X's and O's? Where is this supposed offensive imagination, movement and freedom? I'm sorry but bringing Yao out of the block to shoot jumpers isn't exactly my idea of ingenuity.

Most of our wins were generally convincing against either inferior opponents or teams that we simply caught on a bad night. Regardless, our wins were mostly against bad teams. Not being a hater, just stating the obvious.

How many losses have we had during close games? Quite a few. Mostly off of blown leads and inability to finish close games.

So here we are: 20-19.

JVG had his shortcomings as a coach but I firmly feel that we would be at the very least 5-6 wins better under him at this point. The players believed in his system, his preparation was impeccable and it was nice having a coach that actually showed emotion. JVG yelling, teaching and actively coaching has been replaced with a bunch of eye rolls, head shakes and images of seeing Adelman sitting down with his head buried in between his hands.

My best advice for Adelman at this point:

-Show some life! Get into it with the refs. The next time Yao gets mauled with no call get ejected! Show this team you'll fight for them. How many times have you seen a guy like Don Nelson purposely get kicked out of a game as a means to fire up his players? It works.

-Develop a rotation and stick with it. No more of this play so-so 15 minutes, one or two DNP's and then randomly play him 25-30 minutes for two straight games before starting the cycle all over again. Let your rotation players build some confidence instead of worrying about screwing up and getting yanked.

-Get Yao more touches. It's a simple rule of basketball physics: the closer you are to the basket the more likely the ball is to go in. Players like Jamal Crawford and Ben Gordon are getting more shots per game than Yao right now. Completely unacceptable.

-Perhaps most importantly: Get T-Mac to buy into the system. If you've followed his career patterns his attitude seems to have a lot to do with his health.

Just my $0.02. Any thoughts?

 

What great rookies have been languishing on our bench that deserved a ton of additional play time? Some of you act like we had a rookie Shaq or Lebron on our bench or something.

 

JVG cut him, only brought back at the insistance of Dennis Lindsey and CD.

CD's pick, JVG didn't like him at first said he was a tweener and too short, but did get a chance to play due to injuries, and gained JVG's trust....

I must have missed the part where he played well, or all that much.

Morpheus, this is a great point, but the counter to that would be that most rookies need some time to get comfortable on the court before their true value is known.

Honestly I am amazed at the transformation of Novak under Adelman, he just looked so lost last year, no confidence, but this year, he actually looks like an NBA player.....

Using the NBDL (A change in direction) is at least one upgrade the team has made under Adelman.


DD

 

Novak has played better this year in extremely limited minutes, but he isn't a rookie any more either. You do remember that Novak started his first game as a rookie for JVG right?

 

Why do you keep repeating this nonsense when it's been continually refuted? He was a significant part of the rotation before the injuries. Go back and look at the box scores. They aren't hard to find.

 

Based on how this season has gone, I think Rick the Ruler, Year 1 is a failure. I doubt we'd be on the outside looking in if we still had JVG as coach. Everyone knows the system and they all had chemistry together. Not to mention this team has much more talent than last year's team. They also wouldn't have given up in games this year if JVG was riding their asses. Seriously though, JVG would be dead if he was coach and we gave up so many points and let them shoot such good percentage.

Maybe, Rick the Ruler, Year 2 will be better. I just don't see how you can look at this season and see nothing but failure. We went from championship contender to fighting for the 8th spot. Although, if we can make the playoffs and get past the 1st round, that all can change.

 

Because JVG said he didn't like the Luther pick.

And, he did get increased time because of injuries that year to Derek Anderson and David Wesley....as well as Tmac....

DD