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Adelman to use more zone defense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AggieRocketsFan, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. ThaShark316_28

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    Lowry, Scola and Martin can't/won't play D.

    Actions speak louder than words.
     
  2. Easy

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    signed -- JVG
     
  3. Aleron

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    he pretty much already stated that when he tried to use this current offense.
     
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    clearly you have no clue on what's difference between effort and talent. offense does need talent but defense is all about effort. it's old school but it is worth for you to learn. a great coach can bring the best out of a player, that includes effort. it's an old school too. if he can only draw a beautiful pic on white board, he is not a coach. he is an artist.
     
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    Defense is about effort and TALENT too. You can't expect Scola to block a tons of shots when he can barely jump. You can't expcet AB to hold his ground when Baron Davis is posting him up.

    Effort can only create an average defender.
     
  7. AggNRox

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    those #s are looking good but a fundamental defense is what i am taking about, making other team a jump shooting team. if they can shoot lights out, give other team credit. in most cases, jump shooting is always bad and low %.
     
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    chuck is not tall. chuck is not the strongest person on the earth. he still can hold his position. he makes other player uncomfortable. he moves his feet to stay in front of his man. it's really uncommon to see a player to completely bulldog directly over his defender. most times, they push and spin to beat you since you focus on his push and coz you have to anchor your strong point to counter puch so you loose your mobility.
     
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    If we train it, can help. Right now looks not trained at all.
     
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    Opponents in 2k11 tend to miss more when I use a zone so perhaps it'd work. lol
     
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    Is funny because the Kobe Lakers always use to struggles vs the zone defense.
     
  12. timelordtwo

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we used the zone against Boston and it was very effective.
     
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    Ray Allen defended Kobe extremely well during the playoffs. Are you saying he's an extremely talented defender?

    Defense is like 90% effort. Battier isn't long or athletic, but he's regarded as one of the best defenders in the league, certainly a better defender than Ariza, who is actually more talented defensively than him. If a coach can't motivate his players to hustle on D then that's on him.
     
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    Your sig doesn't make sense. The Rockets were 4rth in D before Adelman came to town.
     
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    Zone is the worst thing man, nobody real does zone. When you go to zone you make a fool of yourself. This is a joke. Our defense is a freaking joke.
     
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    Defense is way more than effort. Its about concepts,talent,and effort. Ray Allen defended Kobe because their concept was to push kobe to one side, get up and contest, and funnel. Saying its 90% effort is disrespectful to a good defender. Joe Kleine couldnt defend Hakeem because lack of effort, it was a lack of talent.

    In regards to your statement about ariza vs battier, I dont hear anyone talking about Ariza's defense in New Orleans. They're one of the top defensive units this year with basically the same players as last year except Trevor. Monty Williams coming from the old spurs way of defending, adding a long wing defender in ariza, and now they're a top 4 defense. Scheme,talent,and effort all make a good defensive team.
     
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    Monty Williams coming from a old spurs way of defending? You mean old blazers way?

    but on topic, my view is defending is a lot more about talent as much as effort. talent/effort, by themselves can't produce good results, but talent/effort together will produce good results. you can get any random d-league guy to come to the nba and they'll sweat their lungs out to defend, (just to make it to the nba), but does that mean they will be able to defend successfully?

    Some posters make it out to sound like all the bad defenders are just lazy slothes who couldn't give a damn about defending--contesting shots, trailing your man, etc etc...but lets just take for example our very own big man yao ming...everyone says he is an excellent post defender but a poor perimeter defender, so can anyone say with more "effort" he can become a successful perimeter defender? certainly not. he just doesn't have the talent to defend the perimeter successfully.

    effort is overrated in the nba.
     
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    We don't have anywhere near the appropriate personnel to defend. You think Adelman doesn't want to defend? Our guys would never be able to form a good defensive unit. They are just not talented enough defensively.
     
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    It doesn't make sense if you feel like hating.

    I'm marveled by how haters become so blind.
     
  20. TheFreak

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    Yeah, he also only showed up offensively for like one game. There's always a trade-off.

    There's that, and the fact that he had Garnett and Perkins behind him. Put Scola and Hayes back there instead, and see what happens.

    Besides that, "defended Kobe extremely well" is a huge exaggeration anyway.
     

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