Adelman post game: "Yao has got to demand the ball."

he's the second coming of DD

 

Too many TMac threads on this site.

 

first post

anyways, the team that the rocket have this year is totally different than the rocket last year...when tracy was out, luther head was the starting sg! If the yao play like his oldself pre injury the rockets would dominant.

 

some people trip me out on this board..

One week, you guys are riding artest's nuts like they're the last life boat off the titanic, then the next week you hate him.

Hate alston, love brooks.

Trade rafer .

Hate brooks, love lowry.

Trade brooks

Hate lowry, love the next backup pg...

lol...smh

 

sometime. . someone is going to bully your kid
Sure you can go out there and beat the lil isht down
but
at some point. . your boy is gonna have to learn to handle it himself

Yao has to learn the coach is not going to step in front of him
and talk for him all the time

Rocket River

 

I gave up hoping he'd become that type of big man years ago.

 

Because American babies have the ego so tender that Yao is reluctant to tear?

 

I was confused at first but I think Adelman was just talking about a particular time of the game. Yao scored 7 straight points and Pistons weren't doubling him. But on one of the last plays, he gave up too soon in the post and started setting picks which led to a bad shot. Force feeding Yao is still considered bad if the other team is doing a good job denying him the ball, I think.

 

Lol Wow. I didn't see the i hate Lowry guys yet but you hit it right on the head.

 

I've noticed something with some of the guys here..

Some bashed T-Mac for taking too many shots. he hit some he missed some. sometimes he missed too much. He gets bashed on here. Artest recieved the same treatment.

Now most people are saying Yao needs to take more shots, demand the ball more, so on and so on. Mind me Yao is not a power center where his game is focused on being right under the basket where he dunks it all the time. He is a finesse player. Turn around and shoot type of center. Yeah he has the touch but what are yall going to say when he has a 7-21 night or so on.

If Yao is alright with taking the amount of shots he takes then so be it. If the rockets win then thats the only thing that matters.

 

This is the reason why Yao will never be a leader.

 

you're the boss, coach. it's funny you are b****ing about this. take control.

 

The Rockets are a stronger team when Yao gets rolling. Yeah, he has 7 for 21 nights but on the season he's averaging better than .500 fg% and he's pretty much averaged better than .500 for his entire career.

The team is stronger when they establish Yao, end of story. Yao not stepping up as the playoffs get closer is a big, big worry.

 

How are they denying Yao the ball? There's no way the other guys can deny Yao the ball that doesn't hurt them overall defensively.

You double a guy you make it much tougher for him to score, but the other guys on his team are now wide open. The defense keys on Yao, they hurt his game but OVERALL the other Rockets should now have a much easier time scoring.

In other words, disadvantage Yao but net advantage Rockets. This team needs to figure that out quick because the playoffs are just around the corner.

 

It's an advantage for the Rockets if they have good spacing, good ball movement, they have guys who can read and react to defenses well, and guys who'll take advantage of holes in the defense by penetrating.

Yes, in theory, the Rockets can potentially take advantage of their ball denial on Yao. But, in practice, the Rockets lack good decision makers, passers, and dribblers on the perimeter -- at least compared to most of the other elite teams. That's why they struggle.

 

Yep. It's like how the team used to be when Yao was down and McGrady was not. The team went how McGrady went. Now, it's the team goes how Yao goes.

When both were healthy it was always important to get Yao going first. That is even more important now that the team's main play maker is out. Before Yao and Tracy would feed off each other really. You couldn't double both players. Now the entire team depends on feeding off Yao alone.

 

the thing is i think more teams will play straight up more and force yao to have games like this more often. utah did a few years ago and it worked. remember, we BARELY escaped v. a pistons team missing multiple players that are main guys for them (and i'm not even counting iverson)

and if they double, it's going to be off battier like the lakers did. and battier can't do anyting off the dribble.

we have to play with the sense of urgency that the second unit plays with. i am just not really that optimistic with the first unit. if the 1st unit can find a way to play the same intensity as the 2nd unit, then good things will happen.

 

I got a chance to replay the last few minutes of the regular time last night, and then the last few minutes of the OTs.

Based on looking at these, I agree with Adelman that most of the faults lie with Yao, even though he is not solely responsible. You can tell that Yao has a habit of deferring to teammates after he scores a few in a row, often deciding that he would NOT even try to shoot. I think that's why Adelman said Yao tried to "fit in" instead of taking control. Yao probably didn't want to be called a ball hog, even though he has been scoring efficiently.

In fact, if you look at Yao's last shot of the game. He was in side posting with Artest trying to pass to him. When Artest didn't pass for a few seconds, he rolled out trying to set a screen for Artest, like he was deferring to Artest to shoot, or worse, deferring to the cue from Artest on what to do. After rolling out, it became clear that Artest was planning to pass the ball to Yao, so Yao returned to his post again. You notice that Artest hadn't moved a bit from earlier, and as Yao moved inside, Artest passed him the ball for an easy score.

Instead, Yao should have told Artest to pass the ball because his defender was behind him, instead of taking cue from Artest's action. After all, Yao had just scored 3 possessions in a row on exactly the same play, why not keep doing it until the opponent tried to take it away?

 

Its really about knowing game situations and taking advantage. When the pistons and spurs decided to single, yao should post, make a move and just shoot. If he hits enough, now the defense has to make the adjustment. That's why people have said to be elite, you have to be a little selfish. The knicks singled dream until they found they couldn't stop him. Then in the 4th, they started fronting with mason or oakley with ewing backside. The rox struggled because the derek harper on ball pressure was very heavy and starks got hot in the 4th. You have to make the other team adjust. Every post game thread is always about yao touches, but he needs to realize that every shot isn't going to be from 5ft. He's a great shooter with great touch, so he needs to use it. All great big men demand the ball and if yao wants to be great, he needs to do the same. Sadly, I just don't think its in his dna.

 

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