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Adelman: McGrady won't play against Pistons

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by _RTM_, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. Zboy

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    So in one instance you claim that "Yao was out" so McGrady could not move past the 1st round. Then you also claim that Mcgrady did not move past the 1st round because Yao got torched.

    So which is it? Is he needed or not? Or should we just chance the criteria based on whatever favors McGrady's defense?

    Anyone else left to blame?
     
  2. SuperStar

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    Yao wasn't a good match up for the Mavs or Jazz. His rebounding was a tremendous liability and his defense was non existent against Boozer.

    A young and inexperience Portland team was a great match up for Yao. Their defense was weak and their centers were more traditional ones.
     
  3. mjharleem22

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    me personally, i dont care about all of that, but people like to summarize Mcgrady's career based off of that info. At the same time these people also want to see t-mac to be a team oriented type player(which he is) but they are willing to take mcgrady's name only and accuse him of not bringing a championship or playoff success to Houston. ridiculous
     
  4. Hball

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    Point is we never had a supporting cast to go along with yao and t-mac, one or the other has always been injured, when they both played we had no supporting cast, so basically we have yet to see this team with all its peices now that we have a better cast.
     
  5. Zboy

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    Nope. Portland was not a great matchup for Yao either. After game 1, fronting defense neutralized him. Any team that fronts Yao will be a bad matchup for him.

    Yao was just another piece of puzzle among many others that took the team past 1st round.

    But that's besides what the discussion was about. My point that was that Hball was using Yao as an excuse when it was convenient for him to.
     
  6. QdoubleA

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    In soviet Red Nation, Player doesn't play and pays YOU! - Yakov smirnof
     
  7. Zboy

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    McGrady had this chance last year. Everyone and the fans were excited before the season. Instead he squandered it away. He reported out of shape, played his role as a drama queen, and cut himself off from the team.

    He brought this all upon himself.
     
  8. trueroxfan

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    and yao and tmac averaged how many together in those series? they were always producing, but it all came down to others not being able to step up when they were either resting, foul trouble, double or tripple teamed, from a talent standpoint morey should realize the amount he has on this roster, with mcgrady on it, and a returning yao next year, it really makes sense to resign mcgrady if you somehow hypothetically were able to mend the relationship between the organization and all the butt hurt fans, mcgrady was getting along with his team fine before recently, injuries cause drama, if tmac came back tomorrow played like god had restored him to his true form and continued to play like that for the rest of the season, we would all shut up and be content with tmac playing here. just think we should stop speculating when he is going to play, cuz we're never gonna know.
     
  9. 1individual

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    Yes, he had his chance last season with a broken knee and heart. Yes. Right on.
     
  10. Hball

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    Not offensively(fronting) but defensively is the bad matchup between mavs and jazz, yao can't guard bigs that play on the perimeter ala dirk and okur, so yao would have to guard quicker guys like josh howard or boozer.
     
  11. QdoubleA

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    You want to put Yao on josh howard?
     
  12. Hball

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    How did he have he chance when he was INJURED, the guy was literally limping but still tried to give it a go because he new Rockets had a chance to win it all, but unfortunately he hurt the team playing hurt.
     
  13. Zboy

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    It takes heart for a Mcgrady fan to admit that McGrady has no heart. Kudos!
     
  14. Hball

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    If you saw the series, Mavericks went small alot and Yao was actually guarding josh howard from the free-throw line :rolleyes:
     
  15. Corpusfan

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    Everyone is reading way too much into Adelman's comments. He said he won't play against the Pistons. At face value, this means he either doesn't think McGrady's ready or that he doesn't think it would be good for the team. I think that's all you can really take out of the comment. All the interpretations of "that means they're about to trade him," or "he has played his last day in a Rockets uniform" are overreaching. Maybe they are in talks to trade him, maybe not, but I don't think Adelman's comments offer a clue one way or the other. For some here, it's just wishful thinking.
     
  16. mjharleem22

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    adelman says t-mac situation is the same as it has been. Am i suppose to believe t-mac isnt making any progress"?Rick never hints that, he never hints that t-mac is getting closer, but he never says he has regressed or that he wont eventually be the player he was. Again its to damn vague. i dont care if he isnt ready, but tell me why, and how.
     
  17. wikiwiki

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    HE. WAS. INJURED.

    How in God's name did you expect a player who was hobbling on the court to meet your expectations for him?

    This is sssooooooo stupid.

    What he's done is giving a year of his life to surgery and rehab so he can come hopefully come back as the player he was when he first got here. And HOW is he messing up things this year????

    The freakin media that needs to have a story about something, blows meaningless comments out of proportion and you morons who don't recognize that THAT IS HOW THEY MAKE MONEY, jump all over it.

    McGrady has adequately explained all the so-called controversy like wearing the jersey, etc. Hell, when coach was asked about it, he just laughed, that's how stupid these so-called "deeply symbolic chess-game moves" are. Then he was explaining that he's in line with the GM and coaches decision even though he feels ready to play and every news station just played the line about him being ready to play again and again.

    Shane has also joked about the media taking things out of proportion in the interview about Scola's eye. So that shows the other players also know the real situation, which is that their is no situation.

    You realize that without controversy, there are no juicy headline articles right?

    You think it's foolish that an injured player, if his surgery to correct that injury is successful, will go back to playing how he was before he was injured.

    ooooookkkaaay
     
  18. mjharleem22

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    well good thing after coming back to early, trying to chose between which back to back game to play, taking 2 weeks off to do his mini training camp, that he came to the conclusion that it wasnt going to work. What kind of chance did mcgrady have if he couldnt be t-mac.
     
  19. Kojirou

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    *shrugs*
    It's amusing. I said these exact words earlier about McGrady playing injured and all that junk. I was completely convinced that McGrady was playing to the best of his intentions with an injured body, and he simply needed time.
    Then Toronto happened. That game was inexcusable. I could have played better in that game. And that game convinced me frankly that McGrady, with his ridiculous posturing, his "will he or won't he" crap that he pulled before, and then with his microfracture junk, really didn't care for the team and was about himself first and the team second. McGrady's behavior throughout the season, particularly the second half of his tenure, was inexcusable by decent standards. He was lazy and uninspired. Period, and no excuses for injuries.

    I think it's foolish to think that a thirty year old player, coming off of a surgery that almost no one comes back the same as before, can play at the level that he did when he was 25. That's simple common sense. If McGrady comes back at the level that he did during the streak, it'll be a miracle. But if we want to contend, even that McGrady isn't good enough.
     
  20. Rocketsmith

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    It would be nice to hear Adelman say something like "We would love to have McGrady play, but he still can't go. He has made great progress and we think he should be able to return at a certain date". Something more definite would be welcomed by most fans.
     

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