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Adelman and McGrady talking about the lack of calls for TMac!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t_mac1, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. jopatmc

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    Tracy has developed the bad habit of contorting his body to avoid the big contact in the paint instead of just going up and making sure he gets the contact. He'll twist and spin so the contact comes to his back side and he doesn't have to risk being thrown down in a position that will cause him back pain. This is a result of going into the paint so many times and winding up on his keester with NO CALL. I agree he doesn't get the call he should down there and it makes me sick, but why hasn't anything been said or done about it until now? This is one thing I do not understand about the Rox. We've got two superstars that don't get the calls. They should be bellyaching all the time about it and they should be selling it to the NBA front office and the media. You can make something a storyline without getting fined. If Yao and Tracy got the calls they deserved, they would probably both have an MVP trophy by now and we would have already been to the Finals.

    This mess isn't something that's just been going on for a few weeks or months. This has been going on for the last few years that 111 has been together.
     
  2. Easy

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    I think the notion that the players who throw their bodies to the defenders should be rewarded with calls is ridiculous. That is not good for basketball. It encourages recklessness rather than skills and body control. Unfortunately, that's what is happening in the NBA.
     
  3. TeamUSA

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    He should be doing that come playoff. That's the only way to get to the 2nd round without Yao.
     
  4. t_mac1

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    you're probably right. if you saw the spurs game, tmac was fouled harder than manu did in that game but manu got the calls whenever he drove. tmac simply yells when he drives, he doesn't contort or alter his body in a way that exemplifies that he got fouled.

    but if he does that too much, he might injure himself. refs should just at least call a foul when he does get foul. i'm not asking for phantom calls here. he should have gotten at least 3 more calls last night on blatant fouls (and all of the 3 im talking about were in the first quarter, which would have given him a rhythm much faster)
     
  5. t_mac1

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    we have seen tracy played WAY better than he did last night and still got eliminated. that's not the only way for us to win.

    we need scola and 3 other guys to consistently get in double figures, landry to regain his form in the playoffs, and the best defense we can play.
     
  6. dividend

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    T-Mac does get shafted on a lot calls, but he CAN take it to the hole a lot stronger. To me, he seems a bit timid like he's scared he will get blocked. He only dunks it when it's a sure thing. Otherwise, he'll invent some crazy reverse triple-pump shot that has almost no chance to go in.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    JVG said something about it in regards to yao a few yrs ago and look what happened (he got fined and a threat of a suspension). nothing you can do about it. all u do is say it "politely" like tmac and adelman did last night.

    we'll see if he gets some calls the rest of the season
     
  8. t-mac4bigmac

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    Thats a great attitude of Tmac, to just play above the influence of the referees. He shouldn't let the refs' calls take away his competitiveness. He knows that he is great enough a player to score 35 points even if calls aren't going his way.

    Same thing applies for Yao. I feel he is bothered by no-calls, to an extent to it affects his game. Its unfortunate to not get calls; but sometimes you just gotta gotta play over that. Yao's gotta have an aggressive mindset and demand respect from the officials through his play.
     
  9. pmac

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    What makes it worse is that often times big guys who avoid this are called for fouls. I'm sorry but i don't think thats good basketball if a guy is standing near the rim and you just ram yourself into him its a foul. I'm not implying they take the little circle out of the paint but they should definately get rid of this ridiculous concept that any contact under the rim should be considered a defensive foul.

    I keep pointing to international ball because it is a good frame reference. Wade and Lebron (before he developed his shot) were terrible in FIBA competitions because they weren't able to just ram into someone who wasn't attempting to contest their shot and go to the line.

    Tracy isn't fast enough or strong enough to do that maneuver and by doing that he risks reagravating his back (which would be devastating to this team).
     
  10. tigermission1

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    Well, it's his rep, so it's in part his own doing. It works the other way as well; see D. Wade or A. Iverson for reference...
     
  11. Nelly

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    I hate this reputation crap that referees use, they should just call it fairly. That's sad that someone like Kevin Martin gets more calls than Tmac, that must mean he has a better reputation with the refs than Tmac. :eek:
     
  12. tigermission1

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    Look, I get on McGrady for a lot of stuff, but one thing I've always admired him for is the fact that he pretty much always plays 'above the refs', and isn't a constant complainer like Kobe, Dirk, Duncan, or a plethora of other superstars in the league. He doesn't b**** about "dirty players" and he just internalizes his anger. I admire that part about him. Unfortunately, that may also hurt him in the "getting preferential calls" department.
     
  13. Precision340

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    yeah the past couple of games he's been moving/running very well.. even the sacto game i noticed how much more he was moving and being active on the offensive end... he must be feeling pretty good.. keep it up tmac!!
     
  14. WhoMikeJames

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    He gets fouled on more jumpshots.
     
  15. tigermission1

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    It's not about "better rep" it's just about having the rep of being more 'aggressive' taking it inside.

    And no one is saying it's fair, just the way it has been for as long as I can remember...
     
  16. blk5g

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    i would love to see him attack the basket like last night, but one big hit and his b-ball days are over, you gotta remember his back is a big issue even if you dont hear him mention it to the media one bad twist and hes gone for the playoffs.
     
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    something about flopping your way to a ring rubs me the wrong way...but thats just me.
     
  18. GMNot

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    It's a common saying... "The team that plays more aggressively, will usually get the calls." But that is qualified by tenure, etc. I think Scola wouldn't get called as much if he weren't a rookie. Of course, his play does border on "out of control." He needs to learn how to control his energy so it isn't as easy for the refs to assume he always fouls. Opponents take advantage of his energy to make it look like he fouled them, when, in fact, his body was just going ten different directions. :)

    T-mac should get more calls than he does. He would get more calls if he didn't "pull-up" at the last minute when going to the basket. Too often he does and essentially shoots a floater similar to Rafer. The source for this may very well be his fear of recurrence of back problems, or some injury that would keep him out of the playoffs at this late stage. Any of us might do the same with the same history of health issues. So, while I wish he would be more aggressive going to the basket I'm sure he always has the memories of his injuries in the back of his mind. It may or may not be warranted. Only he knows.
     
  19. MayoRocket

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    I've been astonished at how few calls McGrady gets. I agree that these days when he goes to the basket he seems to try to sneak around the defense rather than go at him. I don't know if that's because of health reasons, referees, or both.

    Still, there are plenty of times when he does go to the hoop and doesn't get the call. It's ridiculous.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    lol, can you imagine kobe? dude gets 90% of the calls and he STILL goes wild on the refs. i mean, if tmac had kobe's character, dude would have punched a few refs the past few yrs.
     

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