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Addition by subtraction (Tmac Apologists need not click)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 30, 2008.

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Would you consider trading Tmac now?

  1. Yes - it would be better for the team

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  2. No - He will come back once he gets right

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    41.9%
  1. leebigez

    leebigez Member

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    Durvasa< i dont think its even health related to not beating those teams, its talent. I mean if you look at your team honestly and then look at La and ask yourself, where do the rox have a advantage? If Yao is dominanting, thats 1, but when they slide Gasol over and bring in Odom, he can cancel yao out. Odom is a problem,Gasol is a problem, kobe is kobe, then fisher is better than Alston and that not even debateable. I'm just real and unless the rox make a couple of moves, it will be like that.
     
  2. daddy cool

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    Rafer usually plays better than fisher when we play the lakers,Fisher maybe be proven because of the chaompionship experience and big games but head to head rafer usually schools fisher. He hit 31 on him last season 8 3 pointers
     
  3. Kracka0476

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    You haven't provided any facts! You just said well I said this and I said that.Were are the facts for Boston or LA to beat Houston in a 7 game series. Oh wait, you cant identify any because they haven't played a 7 game series yet. All you have done is give us your opinion. I said how can you compare them to other elite teams when we have yet to play them at full strength. Then you go off about some other crap that has nothing to do with anything.
    Does LA beat Boston last year in the finals with Bynum???????? Do the Rockets get out of the first round last year with Yao Ming having a potential All-Star season before he went down. If they got by the Jazz they would have had to play GOLDEN STATE a team we always play well against in the second round.
    Everything you just said was a big rant that had nothing to do with the question!
     
  4. Kracka0476

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    Thats a different debate and if you go with our lucky history with injuries you would have to say the odds are agaisnt us. Nevertheless, it's all speculation till they play them with all there guys on the floor. The point I want to make is that our potential of our team is elite. Until that happens you cannot accurately say that were not good enough to beat them in a 7 game series. The Rockets team you see now might not be the Rockets team you see going into the playoffs. Have some faith or you just drag us all down.
     
  5. durvasa

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    The Rockets, if fully healthy, have the personnel to match up with any team. I'm not saying they'll wipe the floor with the Lakers, but it certainly isn't as one-side as you portray.

    You were as happy as anyone with our offseason acquisition of Ron Artest, but now you don't even mention him ... why is that?

    The Rockets, on paper, are terrific. I'd never say otherwise. PG is a weakness for them, and we knew that going into the season. Brooks, however, is a player that could be successful against the Lakers. They don't have anyone that can guard him.

    This isn't complicated. If T-Mac, Artest, and Battier are going to be in and out of the lineup, and inconsistent when they are playing, we're not going to be an elite team and we probably won't get very far in the playoffs.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Well the only facts i need to show is, the lakers made it to the finals last year and the rox didnt' The lakers destroyed the same team the rox lost to in 6 games without Bynum also. The celtic won the ring. So 1+1 = 2. Their records this year ,la and boston is better than houston. If a team has never been healthy, why would anyone expect them to be healthy all of a sudden? the truth hurts dont it?
     
  7. Kracka0476

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    It's basketball anybody can beat anybody. Golden State beat Dallas last year and Dallas was the higher seed and the better team. And that is just being real with facts.
     
  8. badgerfan

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    Any NBA team can beat any other NBA team on a given night for one game. Could the Rockets take one game from the Lakers? Sure. Can the Rockets beat the Lakers over a seven game series? Probably not. Especially with the McGrady issues.
     
  9. emjohn

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    If you're playing on your Xbox, our team can beat the Lakers and Boston no problem.

    Unfortunately, Rick can't use a controller during the actual games.
     
  10. Kracka0476

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    You amaze me dude. My whole point was that you cannot accurately compare them yet to the other elite teams till you see how they stack up at full strength. Now you go off and talk about last year playoffs when we didnt have Yao or Artest. Well no **** we wouldnt be better without Yao and Artest. The only truth that hurts here is how r****ded you are.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Leeb,

    I agree we should constantly be trying to upgrade our overall roster's talent....I just think Tmac is the most movable piece, and his attitude sucks balls.

    So, move him, get some young athletes like you and Gater want....and move others too, build around Yao and Artest.

    DD
     
  12. Illmatic

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    Actually, T-Mac is not so easily movable now because other GMs watch the game too. Artest is a very good piece but its too volatile to build around. Tmac has a prima donna attitude, if you cater to his emotions, he will show up and play, if Artest ever gets pissed at management. Pufff, there goes your centerpiece
     
  13. DaDakota

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    He is movable because of his contract, and teams wanting to get in on the 2010 race for talent.

    DD
     
  14. Illmatic

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    Yes, he is but he will be more valuable next season. This season , he is just an expensive antique. I really don't see any team willing to rebuild around him as their number 1 option
     
  15. abc2007

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    So, you mean the rockets should trade Tmac for untalent?!

    Why don't the rockets themselves want to get in on the 2010 race for talent?!

     
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  17. DaDakota

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    Cool, what does it say?

    DD
     
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    I'm fairly certain not this. Thanks, babelfish!
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It would be foolish to trade t-mac...because what you will get is a bunch of bloated contracts for other players with bad attitude and the likely. Or you will get a draft pick and some other chumps.

    Unless you want to trade him for say an allen iverson, that's who you might get - but this team doesn't need him.

    You will definitely be trading down in terms of talent. I know how much you hate t-mac now because he doesn't play the game like you want him too, but that still doesn't make sense to trade him.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't HATE the guy, I HATE the fact that he doesn't play hard, or do the work necessary to come back from very minor knee surgery.

    I also HATE his weak minded attitude, but I still have HOPE for the guy...but after 4+ years, it is fairly clear he has a very weak character......

    But there is always hope that he can mature under the duress he is going through...but I would not count on it.

    And I don't buy the we will trade him for peanuts, plenty of times, sulking players get traded.....teams know what is going on...it is all attitude nothing physically wrong with him.....

    DD
     

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