AD mentioned with Rox (Loraine [CL] Morning Journal)

why give up mike james for daniels?? James is younger, a better defender, better shooter, and has a ring. Outside of tmac, James is the only rocket that can penetrate. If the rockets want to get more athletic they need to get rid of ward and sura. Daniels is about the same size as sura, so he can play the 1 and 2....also get rid of wesley, maybe the starting backcourt next yr could be james and daniels with tmac at the 3.

 

Mike james is a ballhog who never looks to pass. Is quite a streaky shooter.
We DO NOT need this on the team!

 

I would trade Sura or James for AD, I'd rather trade Sura however. A Daniels/Sura rotation would be pretty good, it would allow Sura to play some SG as well. A Daniels/James would be a good rotation as well.

Overall, I like AD's game. He has good size and athleticism we need at PG, he is also a better shooter than Sura and has always had a good assist:to ratio.

 

AD and Sura provide different things.
They are both sorta combo guards.

Sura was just awesome this year and he did a lot for our team..definitely.
But injuries! He's having surgery and uhh maybe he is fine now..

But I'd rather have Antonio Daniels for his quickness..AD isn't known as a 3 point shooter..but I think it is probably better than Sura's shooting.

 

AD has a lot of Vernon Maxwell in his game.
streaky shooter
bigtime defender
great in the open court
hybrid 1/2
6'4"
plays with a lot of heart
...anyway,Daniels has always intrigued me.Drafted in the 4 slot,oozing talent,an athletic freak.He remains an enigma,but appears to have reigned in his game a bit.Whether or not AD ever plays up to that 4 pick is really problematic.If he continues to channel his talent,and play under control,AD would definitely be a key component of a title team here.

 

NO WAY ROCKETS ARE TRADING MIKE JAMES.

He is the best backup PG you will get at this price. He will create for himself when Yao and Tracy are at the bench. We need a starting PG who can dish and shoot. AD is a good PG that will be good for Rockets, becuase he will give Tracy the ball right after he comes off of the screen just like Ray Allen did this year. I know AD can't shoot just like Sura but he is a better players than Sura.

 

I actually liked Sura this season, and I thought he was our toughest competitor...but I would like to see him as a 2-guard, as a slasher/penetrator...he puts up good numbers...10/5/5...hes versatile, can defend gives us height in the backcourt...however his health is a major negative...

I think daniels should come here because the Mavs have TONS of backcourt players who can take minutes-Terry, Harris, Daniels...all 3 of them will command decent minutes, where as AD is pretty much assured a starting spot here in Houston...

 

You're right that James is younger, a better defender, and a better shooter, but keep in mind, Daniels also has a ring (1999) and can do some penetrating himelf.

My problem with Daniels is that the numbers suggest he's not as good a defender as some seem to think... According to Dean Oliver's defensive ratings (pts allowed/100 possessions), Daniels' DRting last year was 113, with the league average being 106. By contrast, Mike James' rating was 108, and more significantly, his effFG% allowed was an astounding .349, whereas Daniels was (a respectable) .451.

The one thing I like about Daniels is the fact that he can really get teams into their sets quickly, and knows how to initiate the offense. That said, we should definitely explore all of our options.

 

You can't really say James is a better defender, he is marginally better. His stats from last year at Houston are only 27 games. You can't expect MJ to continue at the same pace. Def PER is a players overall rating on Defense, the lower the number the better. The Net PER is the player offensive rating minus the defense rating, higher the number the better.

Daniels Def PER from 82games is:

13.5 at PG last year and 12.6 at SG. With Net PERs being +6.5 & 6.3
15.5 in 2003/04 at PG with Net PER being +4.9

Overall Def PER of 14.3 and Net PER of +5.7

Mike James has played for 4 teams over the last 2 years.

27 games at Houston Def PER at 9.5 and Net PER at +9.0
47 games at Milwakee Def PER at 17.1 and Net PER at +0.2
26 games at Detroit Def PER at 13.8 and Net PER at +1.1
55 games at Boston Def PER at 13.1 and Net PER at +2.1

Overall Def PER of 13.8 and Net PER of +2.6

They are very similiar on defense but Daniels is clearly a better offensive player. I agreed with trading James over Sura because I think Seattle would like James better than Sura. Having Daniels & James would be the best option.

 

Just for the record, I dont want to get rid of Mike James. I like him on the team. But sometimes you have to give something of quality to get quality. If we were to do a S&T for Daniels, the Sonics would want James over Sura because of of the age difference and the defense.

 

My point exactly.

 

The problem is, is that Daniels wants to START and he isnt going to do that with Ridnour there. Why would Daniels resign? The Rockets want to upgrade their STARTING PG spot which they would in Daniels. The Sonics want to replace Daniels with a BACKUP PG which is what they would get in James.

 

I have not seen AD play that much, but neither had I seen Mike James play that much either. But I know that the Rox were VERY interested in picking up either James or AD during the offseason last year, and after watching MJ play with us, even just for the last part of the year, I now understand why the Rox wanted him. He has a pretty good shot, he's fearless, he has a mean streak, he's confident, he can get to the rim, and he seems to have a pretty decent hoops IQ. (better than, say SF ) Having said that, though, there were times that it did look like TMac and MJ were not meshing well. But then by the end of the playoffs, it looked like TMac had become more appreciative of MJ, so who knows?

Now, assuming that the Rox know more than I do, and their opinion of MJ was vindicated by his play, I have to assume that, if the Rox were willing to trade MJ for AD, then it's a safe bet that AD brings all of those qualities, but with more size.

But I just have not seen him play enough to be able to tell.

taking into account the philosophy that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, I might be inclined to hope the Rox hang onto MJ, at least through training camp and the first part of the season.

But if they do a deal like that, then here's hoping that were are even better for it.

 

if we trade james for AD we our PG's will supply NO SHOOTING. bob can't hit the 3. we all saw how that held back the offense a little. well, it will be held back the whole game if bob and AD run the point.


AD and james = perfect 2-1 punch. if anything, give them bob.

 

Not only that, but they could get James a little cheaper by year and a lot cheaper than Daniels in terms of value of the overall contract. Mike James is an excellent back-up PG who would bring an offensive punch and physical play to spell Ridnour.

If I am Seattle, don't want to committ long term money to AD (they are going to be shelling out a ton for others this offseason) and think I might lose him for nada, acquiring Mike James at his contract is a no brainer.

I agree an have pointed out the problem with AD and Sura being your two PGs and playing along somene like Wesley who really tailed shooting wise himself.

That said, if we could somehow swing a legit starting SG who has decent size and is an excellent shooter--say Mobley (or say Kittles for the vet exemption as a back up plan), that kind of player could really play well with AD. I think AD (more steady and disciplined, but still athletic and CM (more offensive minded and better shooter, but also athletic) would really compliment each other well offensively and defensively, and Sura could back-up both. (mix in Barry or Spanoulis or draft pick too).

 

One thing about Daniels is that he's a "young" 30. The guy hasn't played much in the NBA, not a lot of wear & tear you'd see with established starters at 30.

Watching the playoffs this year, it's becoming more and more clear that the league is becoming more guard-oriented. I strongly doubt the old inside-out offense can flourish with the way refs call the game now. AD is therefore a right player for the Rockets to go after. He's big and has the athletic ability to defend for JVG. Plus he can penetrate on offense. His shooting is mediocre, but not detrimental. After all, Tony Parker's not a great outside shooter. And he's been doing pretty well.