Academia Gone Wild: Identical Twins Separated for 35 Years by "Research" Group

I can't help how others perceive me, but if asking for people to support their claims makes me "an arrogant blowhard" I will take your remark as a compliment.

 

It seems like the researchers formed the parameters of this study out of convenience. If it were an orphanage's policy to actively divide twins, as you said, then the researchers would already have had a pool of separated subjects to study. There would have been no need to have used the study as the main excuse for separation and deception.

This is where ethical oversight should interfere with morbid intellectual curiosity. Granted, there will always be cases where human misery springs from itself, but scientists shouldn't be a catalyst in situations where there are possibilities of wrong doing. And it's all because they wanted a 'clean' research sample.

Also, the ethical controversy of this study means that it'll never be repeated under the same conditions again. The remote chances of finding a similar result would be to dig up orphanage records, and it might not mean anything significant to the tainted study.

The premise feels like it some dystopian sci-fi novel.

 

Except the context of our discussion is today.

I must have missed the bit where those saying there were no ethical issues were doing it from the timeframe of the 60's and 70's.

 

bnb- have you found those studies showing that it is harmful to seperate siblings at infancy?

 

Bookmarked.

 

Not NewYorker, but a more sophisticated CreepyFloyd

 

Jingaro...

 

Good...then can you leave now so the rest of us can have a real conversation? Thanks.

 

So you admit you have no rational argument that this study violated any principle of ethics?

 

The reason I became involved in this thread was that I perceived an anti-science/anti-academia prejudice in the knee-jerk reactions to this story. With all the outrage spelled out in this thread's posts, I would think at least one person would be able to say just what these researchers did wrong. NOBODY HAS DONE THAT!

You can insult me or compare me to your favorite banned poster all you want, but that just makes you look like a coward who is unwilling or unable to defend his/her positions.

Again, stop with the games, grow up, and make a real argument.

 

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about how you feel.

 

balla, stop fishing expedition and witch hunting. There is nothing in LScolaDominates's posts resembling the known position and debating style of NewYorker. You're derailing your own thread.

 

I have no interest in your convoluted justifications for your childish posting behavior. They are pathetic and off-topic.

Now, do you have an argument to make about the ethics violations in this study or not?

 

I'm happy to say that if it makes you go away.

 

Don't let my presence get in the way of your intellectual honesty. Either you admit you were wrong, or you don't.

Do you have a rational explination as to why the researchers in this study violated the ethics of their profession? Or are you going to continue to blame me for your inability to construct a valid argument?

 

ok, then i'm definitely right. in fact, i'm absolutely right.

you're asking for me to prove up ethical and unethical....it's subjective. unless these guys were subject to a set of ethical guidelines that we could both reference.

 

No, I'm asking you to justify your expressions of outrage. In your subjective opinion, what principle(s) of ethics did the researchers violate?