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Abu Musab Al Zarqawi is Dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rcoleman15, Jun 8, 2006.

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  1. Cohen

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    Those were 2 civilians, yet those who do not see this evet as 'glorious' and are not 'ecstatic' have not mentioned how many civilian lives have probably been saved, how this may help keep Iraq from decending into full civil war.

    Does that 'lack of mention' speak volumes? Have you given no thought to all of those civilians?

    I'm dumbfounded that anyone would have the gall to defend this action in anyway. He was a thug who didn't care who he murdered to achieve his personal goals.
     
  2. Cohen

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    I understand what you mean Deckard, problem is 'ecstatic' is synonomous w/ glorious. When I look at the definition, when I think about what our troops do and how the Iraqi people have responded, I have to admit that I think it's glorious. I also think it's all sick and disgusting, but that does not deny the merits of the event. Oddly, they are not mutually exclusive.
     
  3. CreepyFloyd

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    Was Zarqawi doing this before this illegal invasion and occupation?

    I hope I didn't interrupt your celebrations

    I also don't think you give a damn about Iraqi civilians
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    No. Have you? Does it have anything to do with my post at all? Violence begets violence. If that's too complicated for you, I apologize.

    Maybe you also glossed over the whole "albeit justified" portion too.

    Since when is revenge synonymous with empathy?


    Likewise. (and I mean that sincerely)
     
  5. giddyup

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    Why was Zarqawi killing wedding celebrants in Jordan this past year?
     
  6. gwayneco

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    Your comment shows that you want America to lose and that you are a traitor.
     
  7. gwayneco

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    Yeah, the terrorists just need a hug.
     
  8. gwayneco

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    Doing the right thing should always be gloirified, even when it's a difficult thing. The moral depravity of the left never ceases to amaze me.
     
  9. CreepyFloyd

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    His comments were in direct relation to Iraq as were mine
     
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    More civilians would have been saved if A:) We ran an efficient war effort (like Gulf War I) and got our guys out of there. or B:) Didn't go to war in the first place.

    Our war effort is what gave rise to AZ. But I agree he was a thug that deserved to die.

    That being said, there is something unhuman about celebrating any death particularly when innocents were killed in the attack. Had this occured in America, there would be outrage and lawsuits ...justifiably. Why do the Iraqi's, whom we were intstalling Democracy for, have a different standard than ours?

    ZA was a bad man. Death is a bad thing.

    Killing AZ does not excite me.

    It's good that America acheived its goal. I'll be excited when American's and Iraqi's stop dying and I'll be excited when my tax money isn't funding the war effort.
     
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    And mine were in direct relation to your implication that AZ would be some sort of choirboy were it not for the War in Iraq. He was not nor does he limit his mayhem to the "occupiers" of Iraq either.
     
  12. CreepyFloyd

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    well he wouldnt have been doing it in iraq, that's my point
     
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    ... but he isn't limiting his mayhem to US/Coalition troops and their Iraqi collateral damage is he? That's my point. You seem to want to insinuate that this guy would not be a problem were it not for the US in Iraq. I don't think that is a tenable assumption.
     
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    Well said...and how I feel as well.
     
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    Yeah gotta love that America,... apple pie, blue jeans, hot dog...killing a rabid "mastermind" terrorist...

    I personally am very grateful,.. no gloriously ecstatic that my tax dollars have resulted in this! :D
     
  16. CreepyFloyd

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    How come nobody really ever heard about Zarqawi until the Iraq War? I don't think he would've been much of a problem if not for the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq...he had free reign to operate in Iraq, because of instability and lack of security...he didn't have that in Jordan, because that country is almost a police state and he definitely wouldnt've had it in Iraq pre-invasion, so I think at best he would've been an irritant, but I understand what you're saying.
     
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    It's simply amazing that there are people out there who want to put all sort of qualifiers on this. One would think it would be universally and whole-heartedlly praised. Instead we get statements that begin with: "He was a bad man, but (blah, blah, blah)...."
     
  18. Cohen

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    Gee No. But why? Could it be because a tyrannical leader had a firm grip on the nation? hmmm....

    Was it the US' fault that az wanted to incite a civil war? hmmm....



    Childish.



    Am I supposed to care that you think that?
     
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    Not everyone enjoys killing as much as you do.
     
  20. Cohen

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    That's right! Keep the tyrant in power so the terrorists can't pursue their own selfish and brutal goals!

    Isn't this what some here have calimed is duplicitous about US policy elsewhere? Yet you argue for the same in Iraq.

    Brilliant!
     

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