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About Rafer Alston...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SuperMarioBro, Feb 14, 2008.

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  1. knickstorm

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    get real......you're the type of spoiled rocket fan that remind me of all the spoiled yankee fans..........if the rockets find a guy who can knock down the open shot, then you're gonna complain about how he doesnt share the ball enough, or run the offense well enough.....or maybe you'll complain about his defense...give me the name of the player you want......

    rafer started the season weak and since then picked it up..........the stupid part is you complaining while he's playing consistently the last week to 2 weeks.,,,,at least use your brain and will till he sucks to bring this up.
     
  2. knickstorm

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    no... defense wins in the playoffs........if houston lost most of the games in low scoring battles then you'd be right.......but you're wrong.........outside of game 3, the jazz won games by scoring 98 pts, 94 pts, and ohh yea, all the rockets offense needed to do was score 104 pts win game 7.........i guess that's not too much to ask right???
     
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    thats because we dont have anyone else who can run the team and is a true point so our #'s dip when he is out
     
  4. badgerfan

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    Rafer's the best the Rockets have, but he's probably not good enough to take them deep into the playoffs.
     
  5. Jelle

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    Rafer is doing great and i'm very happy he got some points against the Kings. He's going to the basket more, his three point shooting is better and his assists are up. He is indeed streaky but Kenny Smith was streaky too and imo he was a great PG who was also underrated, which i think Rafer is too.

    For the playoffs it would be nice to have a guy like Cassell to take some pressure off Rafer though. We'll see what happens, i'm staying optimistic about it because Rafer has been stepping up since T-mac was out and has had a bit of a slump but he's back.
     
  6. blackbird

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    What are you trying to say or prove? 104 pts is too much for a NBA team? What a shame. Are you kidding me? Did you watch any other teams' games in that playoffs? Lets take look that series:

    HOU-UTA
    84-75
    98-90
    67-81
    85-98
    96-92
    82-94
    99-103

    My points is that, offensively, Rox was the worst team in that playoffs. On the other hand, defensively, Rox played very well in that series. Rox lost that series because of its bad offense (not defense). What is wrong?

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  7. ColomboLQ

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    If the Rockets could only get a steve blake type or just someone who could consistently hit an open jump shot and can dribble the ball up the court, they instantly become 10x better on offense. Rafer has been taking a lot of shots mostly because teams leave him open because Rafer will not beat you with his jumpshooting no matter how open he is. He also is not a great creator, but with McGrady doing more of that now, all that is really needed out of the PG spot is shooting, which Rafer really doesn't have.
     
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    BINGO!
     
  9. jVgOwnsYou

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    Bottom line is he is the best that we have, and it's not even close. I like alot of the things he does, and I like him playing some role on this team, but 40 minutes? I don't know. I wish we had a PG who could shoot it better from the outside and still push the ball up the floor like Rafer does, but you can't always get what you want.

    James could have been that guy but it looks as though he has packed it in. What a loser.
     
  10. ibm

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    i see that description fits brooks very well, and he still has 30 more regular season games to learn.

    coming playoffs, ideally if brooks matures a little bit, then rafer's minutes can be reduced to ~30-35 min.
     
  11. blender

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    Like a lot of posters, I didn't think Alston would be on the team at the start of the season. But imagine where we would be if Alston were traded and James and Francis were our only option for starting PG.

    Of course, I'd welcome an upgrade at the PG position if available. But I guess I find it hard to fault Alston for our PG situation, because for the past two years, he's done more than what should've been expected of him.

    And to be honest, a little part of me wants to believe that Alston's improved play is permanent and that Brooks will somehow figure things out before the playoffs. :)
     
  12. jVgOwnsYou

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    I hope you're right, but right now, Brooks has been a much worse 3 point shooter than Rafer.

    His release is nicer, and I think he has potential to be a decent 3 point shooter, but he has alot to prove...
     
  13. bjshot

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    I'd rather have Nash or Paul, maybe Williams. Sam I am, no Thanks. :)
     
  14. ibm

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    brokks is supposed to be a good shooter. yes, his shooting has been below par lately. my guess is the adjustment from a college 3 to a pro 3pt line. obviously, novak never seemed have that problem though.
     
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    Different mechanics. Novak has a more natural form to his shot and thus gets a nicer arc under them. Brooks has a good form but it's harder and more of a line-drive. His height doesn't help him either.

    He'll eventually adjust, but for now, we just have to hope that Rafer keeps playing decent.
     
  16. Ducky

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    GOOD point.
     
  17. jVgOwnsYou

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    Novak always displayed range from way beyond the college line. He wouldn't have been drafted if he didn't have legit NBA 3 pt range. Also he is 610 so he can release his shot without being bothered most of the time.

    The same can not be said for Aaron. Brooks releases the ball well but it takes him a while to get it off and he's so short that he can easily be bothered. He usually has to rush his shot due to much bigger defenders closing out on him and that's why he's been off. It will be a huge adjustment for him.
     
  18. SuperMarioBro

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    Rafer doesn't do any of those things very well, anyways... Also, the fact that Rafer shoots so poorly on a team with Yao and McGrady spoonfeeding him, and with Adelman coaching is... disturbing.

    Still, lately, he's been playing well enough. I'm just skeptical he can keep it up. That's the main point of this thread. I just don't really see many changes in his game; he's just making the shots he used to miss. Is it because he has more freedom? Is it all mental? Is it really just a 25-game fluke? What is it?
     
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    Thanks for making the point the HE'S A TRUE, EFFECTIVE POINT GUARD.
     
  20. Drewdog

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    He's doing well right NOW. My concern is that the law of averages (38.6% Career FG%) is going to catch up to us come late March/early April when we are fighting for a playoff spot.

    Like I said before, adding a veteran PG with playoff experience would be ideal if we want to go deep in the playoffs.
     

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