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[ABCNEWS] Should Spanking Your Child Be Illegal? MASS. might be 1st

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SwoLy-D, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. Refman

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    See andy...we do occasionally agree. :cool:
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.

    I LOVE THIS ****!!! BEAT THE **** OUT OF EM!!!! SAVE HIS ******* SOUL!!!
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    On more than just this subject, I know.
     
  4. rhester

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    there goes NASA again :eek:
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Spanking is one of the keys to great parenting.

    I got spanked, and I deserved it...

    :D

    DD
     
  6. SwoLy-D

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    WHAT THE F*CK?!?!? :mad: :mad:

    Step aside. I don't usually respond to many posts on the D&D, but this one just irked the sh*t out of me.

    You're saying that STEALING, DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS, and DISRESPECTING are all parts of "being a kid"?!?!?!

    Please take me to this wonderful place where you were raised... kids didn't last very long there, did they?!?!??! :rolleyes:

    WOW. You REALLY needed being a spanking, brother.

    And when you say "attacked", do you mean that someone is going to come running at you with some weapon to try to hurt you!?!? This is not what we're talking about. We're talking if I as your parent say "Mr. Clutch, boy, please pick up those clothes you left on the floor" and you say "Psh... hold on, fool...", your ass is getting smacked across the head or on the butt. If I as your parent catch your *ss taking something that is not yours from someone's purse, heck yes, I am attacking your butt with my hand. You deserve it. It's not proper behavior, and you were told this many times and shown as an example that it was not acceptable to do these things.

    Thank you for pointing this out to me, hotballa. Hope your stomach is cool, man. :cool:
     
  7. BlastOff

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    Pure madness! There are way too many parents as it is not willing to discipline their kids in any way, let alone spanking.

    What I wanna know is how can a parent continue to be responsible for a child with a law like this in place? For example, as a parent myself I would find it unfair to have to pay court costs and damages associated with the indiscretions of a child that I couldn't spank. Without the threat of spanking my three boys (aged 17, 15 and 14) would run amuck!
     
  8. Master Baiter

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    There are entire countries that do not spank their kids and everyone turns out just fine.
     
  9. BlastOff

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    Name one. I'd like to know if everyone is just fine there.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    If yall don't quit crying about not being able to spank, you will get a spanking. Do you hear me? I mean it! Don't make me pull over! I'm talking to you, Hunter. I don't care that your sister Kaytlyin started it.
     
  11. Master Baiter

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    Sweden

    Here are a few more: Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Latvia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Romania, and the Ukraine.
     
  12. BlastOff

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    Well damn. Maybe our country can learn something from those countries. It'll be interesting to learn how parents handle discipline in those countries. Thanks for the hook up!
     
  13. Master Baiter

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    My wife is Swedish and from what I've seen of her and her family (who all still live in Sweden), they are the most patient people I've ever met. They don't yell at each other. Ever. They treat their kids with respect and as equals. Most of the time when their kids act out the behavior is either ignored or they are talked too but not yelled at.

    This has been a very crazy change for me because it is not what I was used to. It's good though because I'm infinitely more patient than I used to be. My wife and I NEVER argue and we have NEVER yelled at each other. This is a far cry from previous relationships. I'm also much more patient with my kids. I'm happier. My kids are happier. I think my kids respect me more because I respect them, not because I spank them or yell at them.

    It's difficult as well because this isn't the norm in our society. I think we could definitely learn a thing or two from these countries.
     
  14. hotballa

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    when your kids act up in public please do not ignore it. if your kid is screaming and running around on the train, please do not ignore it. you might think it's ok, but it disturbs other people. also please do not talk to your 5 year old child like he's 35 and expect him to sit down because it's the mature thing to do. if talking to him for the past 45 minutes has not quieted him down, obviously your "respecting" him ting isn't working.

    not totally directed at you. had a horrific experience on the train a while ago. watched this scene for almost an hour, people on the train clapped when the yuppie mother and Damien finally got off the train.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    What?

    I forgot one: having sex in my parents car and not caring if they found any evidence the next day. Are you honestly telling me that's not part of being a teen?

    Dude, yes I absolutely mean attacked in the common way we all understand it. No, my parents didn't usually equip themselves with weapons (though the belt was common) but it didn't matter. Why? Because they were BIGGER. Lots of people get arrested for assault without weapons.

    Please tell me how is it okay to physically assault someone? And, really, it's more the psychological pain that children that children have to live with for years that's the issue.


    "you were told this many times and shown as an example that it was not acceptable to do these things."

    Yes, but obviously they didn't tell me the right way. Otherwise I would have listened. Why not use positive reinforcement? Why not improve my self-esteem? Why not look at the things they did wrong instead of instantly attacking me?

    I think spankers should aks these questions before resorting to force.
     
  16. hotballa

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    spanking should be a last resort otherwise it's not effective. but it should still be a resort. if there is no love from the parent, then the spanking would not work, in order for spanking to work, there absolutely has to be lots of love shown first.
     
  17. Master Baiter

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    First of all, my kids don't act that way. If they did, it would be taken care of. You don't have to spank your kids to correct a problem.
     
  18. hotballa

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    hmm wasn't talking about your kids actually, was really complaining about other people's kids :p
     
  19. rhester

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    they could have their troubles like the rest of the world... todays headlines from Sweden:

    Four charged with murder over teen beating
    Published: 30th November 2007 13:06 CET
    Online: http://www.thelocal.se/9261/

    Four 16-year-old boys suspected of a now-notorious beating which led to the death of teenager Riccardo Campogiani in Stockholm in October have been charged with his murder...Nilsson (Prosecutor Jens Nilsson) said the four teenagers acted jointly. They deliberately killed him by pushing him to the ground and repeatedly kicking his head and body, the prosecutor said.

    A fifth boy is charged with assault and incitement to serious assault. He allegedly encouraged the other four to "set upon" Campogiani. The prosecution plans to use the account he gave in questioning in evidence against the other four...Nilsson contends that the boys were indifferent to the consequences of the assault and as a result could be said to have had intent when they inflicted the fatal injuries on Campogiani.... Nilsson said he was not surprised that the victim had been kicked while already lying on the ground.

    "I see this a lot," he said.

    link
     
  20. MR. MEOWGI

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    But they don't have the added trouble of parents beating their kids.
     

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