Right, we wouldn't want to tip the audience off about the family friendly programming that is the Miller lite chicks ripping each others clothes off, the coors lite twins, cheerleader t*** & ass, and the other wholesome spectacles that surround the weekly festival of glorified violence that is NFL football. The hypocrisy on display here , as with the whole Janet Jackson deal, is absolutely breathtaking. I don't understand where these idealized representations of the NFL as wholesome childrens fare comes from; The whole thing as a commercial spectacle is premised entirely on the public advertisement and consumption of violence, sex, and alcohol.
that's a really long post to just counter my, "i'd rather not see that kind of stuff as a lead in to MNF." by the way...i don't tune into football for violence, sex and alcohol. i'm not violent...i love the sport, itself. i get enough sex. and i don't drink the crappy ass beers they advertise during the games.
I'm not just countering that; it's the whole stench of hypocrisy. If the NFL wanted to take a stand against setting negative examples for America's youth/and or not offending viewers sensitive to televised portrayal of various vices, it would fold up the tent and go home. It doesn't, it (and ABC, and Terrell Owens, and whoever else) pays lip service and acts pious and contrite to placate the nagging chorus of its critics. These critics, in turn consist of professional assholes and busybodies who themselves engage in what they regularly pronounce as deviant, sinful, and morally bankrupt behavior (Bill Bennett, BIll O'Reilly, Rush, etc, etc, etc) and amplify the hypocrisy 100-fold. The whole exercise is a giant waste of time. What is the point?
Personally, I think Owens would have gotten a lot more exposure if, instead of apologizing, he would have said “You people need to grow up! We see people dead on the streets in Iraq, people beheaded on the internet! And you have a problem with a naked back? Wake up!” He’d have been on every news show in the world.
T.O. is no Sir Charles. Ownly Barkley would have the brass balls necessary to say something like that.
Well now Dan Rooney, owner of the Steelers, has chimed in at how disgraceful the whole T.O/naked woman skit was. It is apparent that a lot of the citizens of this country worry more about sex then about prisoner abuse and soldiers violating the Geneva convention.
I dont get hypocrisy of ABC yeah maybe the spot was a bit racy but nothing horrible I at least thought. There are plenty of worse things on the news and other tv shows at the same time. Especially if you consider the number of times they show the NFL cheerleaders on the sidelines in their outfits. And it doesnt just mean the NFL their NBA games are filled with shots of the dancers and girls/ladies in the crowd. Anyone remember their constant shots of "Phil Jackson" during that one game?
i still draw a distinction between cheerleaders on the sideline and a woman dropping her towel and jumping into the arms of a man in a locker room. am i the only one that draws that distinction?? i'd like to know if i'm a freak...thanks in advance.
Max, I admit I've only read the first page of this thread, for which I apologize in advance, but it had a link to the commercial (which I hadn't seen) and I got to watch it. I don't have a problem with it at all. It's amusing, in my opinion. And I think there is a distinction between the Super Bowl, Janet Jackson thing, and this. The Super Bowl was arguably a family "event," and the JJ nipple sort of came as a shock. I think the reaction was overblown, and I personally wish we had a more tolerant, European look at this sort of thing, but I could understand it. Monday Night Football has always been about violence (football) and sex (the Dallas cheerleaders, and their copy-cats). I'm just not seeing this as that big a deal. I respect your opinion, though. Just don't agree here. Keep D&D Civil!!
I can see the distinction. I'm still not sure if the intro was inappropriate as it didn't even register as such when I saw it live. I guess even if I did think it was inappropriate and my kids were watching, I would treat it similar to how I treat cuss words on TV. I don't make a big deal out of them and if questioned I let my daughter know that there are certain words that are not suitable for use. When you saw it what was your gut reaction? Was your son watching at the time?
i didn't see it when it happened. i was out. my son and i watch mnf regularly, though...and he loves the intro..the song..the highlights...all that. my wife said, "i'm glad we weren't home to see that...because you know we would have been watching." my thing with this has always been, just give me a heads up. i can explain away cheerleaders on a sideline. he's 4...he doesn't understand the state of their dress. but simulated rape dances followed by tearing off a woman's bra...and people getting naked to jump on top of each other...man, i'd just rather not have to deal with that yet. and i think it's fair to say that i dont' have a reasonable expectation that's coming on mnf. i think that's taking it up a notch. but apparently i'm in the minority on that.
I think it went political when Hangout Boy opened his debating issues to us at the Hangout. Thanks a lot...
I can see your point. I hadn't thought about it like that because my daughter won't pay much attention and my son is a little too young to be interested. MNF should be safe for family viewing again though. After the fall out from this intro I bet the intros for the rest of the season are Rated G.
yeah, probably. again..just a heads up. if there's going to be people dropping towels and jumping on to each other in locker rooms during football games, then we'll do something else. or i'll screen the openings. just some sort of notice that something like that is coming would be swell.
That distinction is weak and seems artificial, IMO, but I'll give it to you. You can, however, draw no such distinction with respect to the ubiquitous Bud/Miller/Coors ads that feature similar sexual themes (the twins, various losers trying to score, bikini teams, chicks ripping each others clothes off) which are the goose that lays the golden egg for the NFL.
Remember those racy ads with Joe Namath? Was there ever any outcry about that? I think a lot of the uproar comes from several factorss: 1) Much of the media and cable news networks depend financially on moronic stories like this. Sex sells, especially when you can be all outraged about sex. 2) People hate T.O. I think a lot of people are tired of his act. So am I. I wish he was on my F.F. team this year, but, I'm sick of his act. 3) A lot of people don't like seeing blonde women drop their towels and jump into the arms of a black guy. Old times aren't forgotten...look away!
I just saw the commercial I referenced in an earlier post. The product is Enzyte. It shows the guy swinging his golf club with confidence after he’s had the remedy and he sinks the ball into the hole, and a Mrs. Bob is waiting for him at the 19th hole with a big Kool Aid smile.