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Aaron Brooks, Novak, and Mike Harris

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tom Bombadillo, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. ind0fo0

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    WOW! your warrants are so conclusive... :rolleyes:

    regardless, if what you mean by 'situational' is if everyone of their players 6 foot 5 inch and above get injured, then you may be right.
     
  2. ind0fo0

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    oh- and when yao comes back:

    yao/deke?
    scola/landry

    no room for hayes. sure, hayes is an option if one of them get injured.
    my point is that hayes cannot, should not, and will not crack this rotation next season.

    my hope is that hayes will have DNP next to his name on the scoreboard.
    (not that i hate hayes, but a DNP will mean scola and landry are playing up the 48 minutes)
     
  3. jopatmc

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    I think your warrants that a championship contender wouldn't want a Chuck Hayes for $2 million a year on their bench in reserve are pretty conclusively WRONG!

    I'm talking about a situational guy that can come in and cool a player off that is taking you to task. That may mean only 10 minutes a night and maybe no minutes for several games. But a true championship contender is looking for just exactly the type of specialists that Hayes is to be able to bring in a crunch game and give them a little extra on the defensive end.


    NAME ME ONE BETTER PLAYER MAKING $2 MILLION OR LESS THAT IS NOT ON A ROOKIE CONTRACT!
     
  4. stipendlax

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    My problem not keeping Hayes is this:

    He's our best low post defender. Scola and Landry can provide you with offense, but it has shown that they have trouble guarding the big men down low (i.e. Aldridge on Scola last night).

    Unless Scola and Landry become better defenders over the summer, I don't see getting rid of Hayes to be the rational thing to do.
     
  5. BucMan55

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    Hayes as your 5th big behind Scola, Landry, Yao, and Deke/rookie 5 isnt a bad thing.

    Hayes as your 3rd big behind Mutombo/Scola isn't good. Landry is not much better than Hayes at this time due to his hops being severely limited. I mean, even Landry put up a Hayes layup last night.(he made it though, so that has to count for something)
     
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    You sir know a lot about basketball.

    And you sir. You know nothing about basketball. You only know flashy dunks and high flying athletes. Go watch the Hawks.
     
  7. GOAT

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    in the offseason that is just one thing that the coaches will have to work with. landry and scola will have to learn to play defense in the nba that is the bottom line
     
  8. ind0fo0

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    i am not contesting the price they pay him so much more as to the quality of his skill. furthermore, the way you have decided to define "situational player" is pretty indicative of how good of a player you think chuck is. 10 minutes a game, max. benched with a dnp most games... c'mon. dont tell me that a "top ten defender" would only get those minutes.

    to say that chuck hayes is a "top ten defender in the nba" is ridiculous.
    10 better defender:

    bruce bowen
    marcus camby
    ben wallace
    shane battier
    ron artest
    kobe bryant
    tayshaun prince
    kevin garnett
    tim duncan
    raja bell

    would you like a few more?
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Novak, Brooks and Harris all played tonight.....only Novak was in garbage time.

    DD
     
  10. ind0fo0

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    novak missed both shots though :(

    i really like brooks in the lineup. bjax/brooks > rafer ;)
     
  11. LongTimeFan

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    Yes, considering Chuck Hayes plays better defense than Ben Wallace. Chuck is a top 10 defensive PF in the NBA - although not in the defensive top 10 NBA of all positions. Some Nugget fans (Nugget 4) might even argue that Chuck is better than Camby - who eats up stats from weakside blocks.
     
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    You're living in NBALIVE 2006, not 2008.

    There are plenty of situations during games and the season where you need a defensive stopper to pressure the opponent and get them out of what is working for them. Hayes is averaging something like 18 minutes per game. I understated his contribution intentionally. Even at 10 minutes per game, he is a bargain. He is currently averaging about 18. That makes him even more of a bargain.
     
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    Looks like coach Adelman reads the forum;)
     
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    Chuck Hayes can be a liability on Defense because taller PF's can just stop and shoot over him.........
    But that does'nt mean that he is not a perfect situational player for the price he is paid......
     
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    JR Smith, Danny Granger, Carlos Delfino, Ime Udoka, Beno Udriah and i did not add in those that are on vets min contract.
     
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    and you are living in a world in which the rockets play only defense.
     
  17. BackNthDay

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    2 D's we're on the same page. Chuck is like a fire alarm, pull only in case of emergency. The more he plays the more likely we're going to lose. I would like to play Lauren Woods before Hayes. All Hayes does on D is slap at the ball, when that doesn't work he either fouls and/or gets scored on.

    Chuck = 4 on 5 basketball
     
  18. Tom Bombadillo

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    Aaron Brooks is sexy, now for Mike and Steve to get some time.......
     
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    I think earlier this year, Landry had pretty much taken Hayes' minutes but even after coming back from the injury he never got those minutes back. Landry was never great on defense but he was good enough there was no reason to put in Hayes, when he came back he wasn't as explosive and his defense suffered. Guys were lighting him up so Adleman felt it necessary to play Hayes.

    Brooks seems to be the best answer for the rockets. When they play him and Luther Head, they become atleast equally as atheletic as the other team. With Battier or tmac at SF the offense runs alot smoother. I just don't see much room for Harris, he isn't a good all around player and he isn't a specialist at anything. He's good to keep around as insurance though. Novak isn't much of basketball player IMO, all he can really do is spot up from 3 and shoot it. He really can't do anything else, he isn't even good at freeing himself for a good shot.
     
  20. BackNthDay

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    2 D's, into today's salary. Chuck is a steal at $2 mil even though he fouls way too much and can't make a layup.
     

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