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Aaron Brooks - Franchise Player?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pieman2005, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. Pete the Cheat

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    actually Terry was the 6th man of that team...

    um...nevermind.


    you have this opinion because he excels as a closer. he offers very little else...
    whether it be devin harris or jason kidd, Terry has never been asked to run the point on a "starter's basis" for the Mavs.

    Brooks HAS been asked to fill that role. perhaps that's why the comparison isn't valid?

    I HATE the Mavs, but Terry is a professional closer. and I think thats a role Brooks could grow to excel at.
     
  2. leebigez

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    Pete, terry was the starter on that finals team.
     
  3. wekko368

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    Yes, he was.

    But how is that relevant?

    Dirk and Terry could both play a lot of minutes. The same can't be said for Yao. I'd be surprised if he played more than 25. So when Yao is on the court, the offense should run through him as long as he has the advantage over his defender.

    If you expect Brooks to defer to Yao on the court and then take over the offense when Yao sits, then that's too many minutes for him.
     
  4. T_Man

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    As for comparisons... I would actually compare Brooks style to that of KJ from the Suns...
     
  5. wekko368

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    KJ shot less than one 3 pointer per game.
     
  6. ASidd_1990

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    Aaron Brooks is the black Kevin Johnson!
     
  7. DUHK

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    I really agree with you. You brought up a good point that he has not broken down since receiving the heavy load of carrying the scoring on this team, trying to make the big plays at the end of games whether succeeding or failing. That shows a lot about him.

    Also, many would agree you don't build your team around him, but he is a very good basketball player considering his first full season as PG on a team.
     
  8. OremLK

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    Brooks is wrecking D-Will tonight.
     
  9. MrAwe

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    By "it doesn't" I meant, the number of post doesn't determine your credibility.

    Then I said "I am just pointing out that you don't have credibility either because you only have 3 posts, well 4 now" meaning:

    before you say someone's credibility is gone, you should build your own credibility first. Since you only have 3 posts at the point, I doubt you have any credibility.

    Yes, having a 10000 posts doesn't make a person credible, but I highly doubt you can gain reputations from just 3 posts.
     
  10. OremLK

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    Look, Brooks has made it clear that he has the capability to face off against the best point guards in the league and succeed. He's done it a number of times this season. The question is whether he can learn how to sustain that, do it more consistently, night after night.

    If you don't think he has the potential to become a star, franchise point guard I really don't know what to say to you. Have you even been watching his improvement this season?
     
  11. leebigez

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    wekko, the problem i have with you and other that think like you is the notion the offense should go through yao. I disagree big time and equate to the failed experiment of years past. Do i think yao should and will get touches?Yes,but its up to yao to fit in and find his niche in the offense. This team led by brooks will crack the top ten in points for the first time in over a decade without yao. Think about that. They avg more ppg minus yao than with yao. What this says is they need yao to play defense,rebound,and score in the post when given the chance. Bo way do they go back to the old failed offenses led by yao and the former mcgrady. Now i know thats a shock to you and the others who worship yao,but this is a new era for the rockets. The days of yao sitting on the same left block, blocking off the baseline every play are over. You can wine about it now or wait till next year and cry about yao not getting the ball in the postgame thread like all the previous years.
     
  12. T_Man

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    agree with you 100%
     
  13. wekko368

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    Years past? Seriously? Next year will be the first year that Yao will have competent 3 point shooters around him. Alston, Luther, and McGrady were all poor 3 point shooters.

    Having competent 3 point shooters as well as players who can attack the basket will force the defense to play honestly.

    The rosters of years past were not constructed to capitalize on Yao's abilities. Next year's roster is.

    His niche in the offense is the focal point. That's the reality of the situation. When he's on the floor, expect the Rocket's to utilize him.

    Ok, I've thought about it. How's their defense now compared to their defense with Yao?

    It's not surprising that the ppg decreases with Yao. Yao slows the game down.

    Yao and McGrady did not complement each other. You're trying to compare apples and oranges.

    Yao has a mismatch against almost anyone who guards him. Do you really think that Adelman would choose not to exploit this?
     
  14. choujie

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    How stupid is your point of view? Next time before you call someone else dumb, at least make sure you have knowledge more than a middle school student have a better idea of what's the difference between better offense and average more points?

    Let me tell you something: top 10 in points scored doesn't mean top 10 offense. The more scoring is mainly the product of faster pace. From basketball reference.com, last year Rockets scored 108.4 points per 100 possessions, 14th in NBA. This year it's 107.3, 16th in NBA on offense.

    An AB led team actually played worse offense than a Yao led team, and you use that as your biggest weapon to prove Rockets don't need Yao on offense. How uneducated and how dumb is that?

    Normally less defensive intensity would results in better shooting and better offense, it didn't happen with this year's Rockets. That also means Rockets sucked on both offense and defense without Yao.

    I don't want to talk about Bobby Jackson anymore because you sir obviously have no idea about what you are talking about but to pretend you know more than other posters, as usual.
     
  15. leebigez

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    wekko, what makes you think you can be any better coming off major foot surgery than he was before which was good not great? The way you talk,i couldve sworn yao was a dominant player which is news to me. As a big man, you can impact the game more ways than just scoring.

    His size in the paint helps the defense igtime and i said that last summer to the battier fanboys. He also sets good picks which also helps other players get free. He's a really good offensive rebounder when he wants to be. This gives him a chance to get easy putbacks. He's a excellent free throw shooter which makes for an excellent option late in games.

    I just named you the plusses of yao without him standing on the block holding his hand up. You can talk about the people around him and why he couldnt dominate,but he didnt do it cause he cant do it for long stretches. There isnt a player on this roster who can make the game as easy for yao as tracy when he was healthy.You can talk about how they didnt compliment each other which is bs.They didnt compliment each other because they were the 2 best player and highest paid and neither were leaders or mentally tough.The old yao led offense is dead and a failure no matter how you look at it. Teams can front yao a make shrink by a foot.When he's not scoring, he tends to lose focus and stop rebounding and defending which should never happen as a center. The rox wont turn to pound the ball to yao for the 25mins hes playing then run the regular offense when he's out.I'm sorry to break the news to you.
     
  16. leebigez

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    so chouilje or whatever your name is, if the rockets are playing at a faster pace and scoring more points than they have in well over a decade, how are they not playing better offensively? I mean my college coach, something i doubt you had,also was an assistant in the pro game. I've never seen pts per 100 possession when i played against mashburn and the kentucky wildcats, christie and the pepperdine squad or even lorenzo charles and that australian club team he played for.

    As i said earlier, only the ho's respond when you say it in a crowd of women. The ones who aren't dont even break their stride.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Leeb, you are owning in this thread.

    AB is great.

    DD
     
  18. leebigez

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    i wish wrongicon would get in this :grin:
     
  19. BucMan55

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    Interesting side note:

    The only posters who have put their hoops credentials out there actually like Aaron Brooks starting at the point.
     
  20. BucMan55

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    Haven't seen him since oh, the end of the Blazers series?? Or maybe he stuck around for Aaron's ups and downs during the Laker series.
     

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