I post this a couple months back in a different thread. And I'm still thinking the same thing. I know the game slows down for players after a season or two in the league. Especially for the PGs. But, what is actually the difference between PGs in their first 2 years and the other years? Alot of people have came out with the point that AB is only in his 2nd year, 1st (or half) season as a starter. Chris Paul 2nd season stat 17.3/8.9/1.8 last season stat 22.8/11/2.8 Deron Williams 2nd season stat 16.2/9.3/1 last season stat 19.4/10.7/1.1 Tony Parker 2nd season stat 15.5/5.3/0.9 last season stat 22/6.9/0.9 Jameer Nelson 2nd season stat 14.6/4.9/1.1 last season stat 16.7/5.4/1.2 So the difference is 3-5 points, 1-2 assist? Small sample size, so i wonder can anyone tell me why its such a significant reason that AB is "only" in his 2nd year and 1st as a starter.
Disagree, I think Brooks has Tony P ability in him. The right coaching staff can get this out of him. More like 20.5 ppg and 7.5 asst
Problem is, with the current roster and especially if TMac can't contribute, he will need numbers like these for us to have any chance at success. I would love to see that assist number pushing 9 but that would be a HUGE jump in production.
AB is too short to have good court vision cuz of bigger, taller players surrounding him, so asking for creating more plays might be a little too much for little Aaron Brooks. But of course, IF he does achieve that this season, he'll probably rise to elite status in the League, just like Devin Harris did last year. And AB can't ever dunk like Steve Francis no matter how much he improves his game (except for an allyoop last year).
I think AB's biggest problem is his inconsistency. Last regular season, he had about one third good games. Actually, he improved himself in playoffs, and played about half games well. I don't think he can improve his court vision too much. All he needs to do is becoming the best of AB. He should keep his shooting consistently.
AB is going to be getting more shots so his ppg would go up even if his fg pct stayed the same but i expect that to rise as well because AB will imo become more consistent with his jumper and more proficient in the paint since Anderson and Scola together space the paint in a way Yao can not. I expect 18 ppg with 5 ast. He will be our clutchest player as well.
Not saying he'll be as good but obviously you haven't heard of Isiah Thomas, height has nothing to do with court vision. That's a stupid argument.
Aaron Brooks just sucks. There are hvae been guards that are the same height that have way more court vision than Brooks. Kyle Lowry has much better court vision, but he is only 5'11-6'0ft. TJ Ford is 5'11-6'0". Chris Paul is 6'0". Brevin Knight is 5'10". We can even look at the past. Muggsy Bogues was 5'3" and the shortest player in league history. He was still able to see the floor and averaged 8.3-10.7 assists in his prime. 5'3! He's shorter than the 13 yr old kids from the audience. The average pt guard was a whole foot taller than him. The other nba players were 1.5-2 ft taller than him.
Put your bias aside and look at how they perform on the court. Starbury is a dousch, Franchise was the man. I am not comparing their personalities. I am talking about their playing style. Both of them were great scoring point guards that could get many assists, but they didn't get those assists as a pass-first point guard. Francis is a much better SG than PG, and had he been 6'6" or taller with the exact same amount of talent, he would have been considered the level as kobe and lebron. It's just fact that he played PG, and didn't play the PG role correctly. Brooks could end up the same if he doesn't develop his game. Look at Billups who was a shoot firstPG like Francis (however not as talented). He developed his game and was THE MAN at detroit, and even at the nuggets. Brooks can become that too.
Statements like this are a great way to be taken seriously around here. ....especially whenever you act like T.J. Ford and Brevin Knight with their career 6 APG or so are some elite level playmakers that Brooks has no prayer for ever touching. I don't think anybody is arguing that Brooks is the next Bob Cousy but you seem to have other ideas.
Where did the post show that they were elite playmakers? It clearly showed that height doesn't hurt court vision. brevin Knight and Muggsy Bogues being even shorter and still being able to see the court.
Ahh... nevermind if you want the post that listed the height comparision to be some kind of all-star list. Then you can have it, it's all good for you.
Brooks can average anywhere from 15-25 ppg, but his assist WILL NOT exceed 5. He simply can't play PG worth crap (beside bringing up the ball)
Your suggestion that the correlation between smaller players and success as a playmaker not applying to Brooks is unfounded. He's showed marked improvements in his decision making and playmaking skills since he's entered the league. He was thrown to the wolves last year by us dealing Rafer and responded admirably. The idea that he "sucks" or lacks the court vision necessary to hold his own and establish himself as a legit playmaker in this league is looking weaker and weaker by the day. Again, he's no reincarnation of Bob Cousy but I see no reason why a hard worker like AB won't continue to improve and reach that 5-6 APG mark that seems to be the league average for his position.
Haha...Well, i'm not ready to do that with T-Mac likely returning to this team. It goes without saying in the event that happens that he'll be the team's primary playmaker. Maybe if something changes and T-Mac is removed from the equation I might take you up on that bet. But make no mistake about it: I really feel Brooks is perfectly capable of reaching that 5-6 APG league average mark. We'll see what happens.
