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A snapshot of Westbrook's overrated (and Harden's underrated) defense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SuperMarioBro, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Kim

    Kim Member

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    I'm not saying Westbrook would have been great at rim protection, but I'm just saying (like everyone else except for you) that Westbrook is supposed to rotate. It's basic defense. Roberson got beat on the pump drive. So Adams had to rotate to prevent an open layup. Then someone (Westbrook) has to rotate to Nene to prevent an open dunk. That's it. It's very fundamental. The only question left is whether or not Westbrook is supposed to rotate back to contest Beverly's jumper or if Grant was supposed to rotate from the elbow (more likely, imo).

    You are the only one arguing your position. And you stole Clutch's videos. You say you time stamped them. Yes, all you did on the first video was skip Clutch's "Clutchfans" intro. That's a complete attention w**** move. I'm sorry for keeping this thread alive. I'm out.
     
  2. wekko368

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    Google it. It's the only way you'll learn.

    I told you the baseline 3 pointer was 22 feet, and you didn't believe me. It wasn't until you researched it on your own that you accepted this fact.
     
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  3. SuperMarioBro

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    I'll admit I haven't been clear on one thing. I was wrong when I said that Westbrook should not have been rotating at all. Adams wasn't in a very good position to recover (which I didn't see at first, as I said on the second page), so Westbrook did need to rotate. But I was saying he should have come harder, AND since he did *not* fully commit, he should have at least tried to recover once the ball went to Beverley.

    If he's literally incapable of closing out on Beverley, AND he's seemingly unlikely to be able to stop Nene, then he's in no-man's land. Maybe I could have found better examples of his defense, but I think this is still somewhat telling. Beverley has been getting a lot of open looks so far, and I don't think it's a coincidence.

    And I don't know what you mean by I "stole" his videos. It's not like I re-uploaded them and claimed them as mine. I'm not allowed to re-share them in a thread of my own? I wasn't aware of that law, my apologies. I skipped the intro because I wanted to get straight to the action relevant to the point I was making. I skipped like the first 30 seconds of the second video. So I also apologize for trying to save people time. I'm just a terrible, attention-whoring, video-stealing person, I guess.

    ... People on the internet throw around the term "attention w****" any time they have an argument with a thread creator these days.
     
  4. SuperMarioBro

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    Lol, you make a good point there. I was pretty certain about the baseline three distance. Of course if you provided a link, I woulda believed it. (This is usually the case with any debate that involves actual, provable facts, though.) But in any case, I just very rarely recall seeing offensive fouls in these situations unless someone throws a bow/clears out. A charge is almost impossible. I think Nene had drop on Westbrook if he catches the ball there. I mean Westbrook was in the land of the giants there and was just not in great position even if he could have made it harder than an open layup. Those plays more often than not end up with a two or a FT.

    But regardless, maybe it wasn't the best example, but I think it's pretty fair to say that Westbrook did not play that as well as he could. But whatevs, guess I'm in the minority here.
     
  5. wekko368

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    When the offensive player begins his move in the lower defensive box, the help defender is allowed to be in the restricted circle. An offensive foul is more common than you'd think b/c big guys tend to take a power dribble, drop their shoulder, and turn towards the basket. And when there's a smaller defender there, the offensive player's shoulder will generally go into the defender's chest, and the defender will go flying.
     

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