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A seemingly smart GM is the key for all the chaos

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Munir Ming, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. jump shooter

    jump shooter Member

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    DD, my only gripe with Morey is that not one PF on the team is a shotblocker. His two centers Yao and Deke can both block shots, but neither is very athletic. Philly blocked 14 shots lastnight to the rockets 2 and it became a layup drill for Philly on the rockets end. That's tough to watch. I know Morey is a big stats guy, but just having an athletic shotblocker out there is a huge mental factor for the other team in not thinking they can attack the goal with impunity. All of the rockets 4s are short with little length and non athletic outside of Landry. Maybe Morey needs to take a gamble on a guy like Sean Williams that the rockets can bring in for special situations like last night. If you pull Yao from the lineup this team is comprised of a bunch of midgets who probably look good on paper with all of Moreys plus and minuses, but really handicaps the team in many ways.
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    I think too much expectation is placed on Morey. Every player he brings on isn't going to be allstar caliber. At times, he will need to trade trash for trash to rearrange the mess he has now. With more players only playing for the contract, its harder to find the gems. Keep in mind under his reign, we have put together a solid bench. That is very difficult to do.
     
  3. shortfuse3

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    Rafer
    Wafer
    Prince
    Sheed
    Yao

    A MAN CAN DREAM
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    My problem with what Morey is doing is this whole 2010 BS.

    Wait until 2010....WTF is that?

    Why not be a buyer in a sellers market? Everyone else is angling for 2010, and let's be realistic, very very few people leave their teams for greener pastures.

    And if you have 12 teams angling for 2010, why not steal some of their talent away with expiring deals NOW? Let's be a player....NOW....not in 2010, when Yao may or may not still be a top tier center.

    Screw 2010, make it happen now.......let's take advantage of all the other suckers looking to 2010, and not become a sucker ourselves.

    DD
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I'd like to personally apologize to Morey if he reads this thread.

    Morey,

    You Got Luis Scola for V-mac
    You Got two Great picks in your FIRST nba draft: Landry, Brooks.
    You turned a late 1st round pick into and All-Star player: Ron Artest
    You did sign Stevie "franchise" but I'm sure you did it because Les wanted him so it's o.k.

    You've only been our GM for 2 seasons and we are closer than ever to getting past the first round. With that, I'd like to say I'm sorry SOME people feel the need to commit Blasphemy on Clutchfans. ;)
     
  6. vjohnson

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    I have to disagree with you on this one
     
  7. joesr

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    It was.

    The rumor was Billups and Rasheed for Tmac (and probally some kind of filler) Shortfuse3. (not prince)

    I believe he signed the franchise for the fans at first but when he traded him I disbelieved that knowing he made a mistake.

    Spacemoth, Yming isnt as you say untouchable. But his job is first to make money and then to win. Basketball is a business and international money is huge. You trade the BIGGEST international market and you lose money, not only that but money for your players as well (endorsements) current and future. Yming is a huge asset both business and sports wise. (spacemoth I dont know if your saying he is untouchable as in business wise or a degrading way which is what it sounded like because I am tired of seeing all this bashing of someone cause we lose) but my fault if it isnt how it looked.

    DD, I agree about the 2k10 situation. We are contending NOW and need to worry about now. Those FA's arent a guarantee for ANYONE (cept maybe Jay-Z, lawl)

    I do however think DM and RA need a long talk about how to play players. Play them by there their hot hands and not their hot salaries. I think RA has too much respect for the salaries and original roles (starter, 6thman) I am sure he has his reasons (not to disrupt chemistry or morale) but something is at a point that needs change.
     
  8. TMaC MVP

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    morey should of made a trade with detroit, **** being a players lead, its a coaches league, bring in pieces that fit the coaches system and not kill it ( rip hamilton) and i wotn stop saying that until its a done deal.

    rick plays his STARS because they are STARS and thats who people are paying to watch... nobody wants to watch wafer brooks landy and hayes in the 4th qtr they want big money players in because of the popularity... and in the event that he lets the bench play in the 4th, what if they fail??? he'll be looked at around the league as a moron for benching all his starters in crunchtime.. look how he benched yao yesterday and u all were calling him an idiot?? dummys. look how t-mac had the hot hand yesterday and closed going 0-4... rick is trying the best he can with a team that simplay CANNOT play his style.. its time to break up the "big 3" all together...
     
  9. michecon

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    Law of average


    For every good decision, there is a bad decision.
    For every bad decision, there is a good decision.
    You guys who take on one side of evidence and shouting at each other is doing it in futile.
    Ultimately, how the team fare will be the judgment.
     
  10. leebigez

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    For all the crying, Detroit NEVER,NEVER,NEVER offered Chauncey and Prince or Wallace. They offered the same deal they offered denver, that's it. Get over it.

    DD, I'm not buying into this 10 crap either, I think its bad business and through my channels, they aren't a lot of guys that want to play with Yao. Lebron,Wade,Carmello don't want to play with a guy like Yao who has to be the focul point to be effective. I think a smart fm can take advantage big time of the guys waiting for 2010. That's what Cleveland did getting Williams, that's what Milwaukee did getting Jefferson for 2 scrubs. I think if you really want to help yao out and this team, they're 4 man needs to be either a floor spreader or a ben wallace/camby type. If they want to go the cheap route, they can trade and get a cheap guy like williams from nj or a 6m guy like tim thomas or al harrington. The way its coming down, Camby if healthy, makes more sense along sde yao than scola. I know many will disagree, but I've said it a while and I'm going to keeep saying it.
     
  11. redao

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    The fact that Rafer is still the starting PG for this team shows that Morey has not done a good GM job. Battier for Mo Williams....... Is it that hard?
     
  12. TMaC MVP

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    a lot of bad decision have been made on the part of the gm, along with a for Slight good 1s.. (scola, landy, brooks) that is all
     
  13. topfive

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    Hey, genius -- Morey never worked on Wall Street. Thanks for playing, though.
     
  14. leebigez

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    That's what I said this summer, but was laughed at. I was listening to the gm and knew williams was a goner for pennies, but a lot of people thought he wouldn't fit. Guess what? Willams on this team over rafer would be a killer. Defensively, Camby makes much more sense guarding the basket than scola. I think its a poorly constructed team.
     
  15. rox4lyf

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    No, it was not a rumor. There is no source for this, so I apologize. But from a Rockets fan to another Rockets fan (I wouldn't lie to you), Chris Broussard from ESPN reported on a recent NBA Fastbreak episode while responding to a "Trade Tmac question" that during the offseason the Rockets were offered a trade of Billups and Prince for Tracy McGrady. He did not go into further detail on whether this trade happened after or before we got Ron Artest, but he did make it clear that this trade was on the table and the Rockets denied. I don't blame Morey or Les for not pulling the trigger because nobody thought that Tmac's rehab would go the way that it did. However, in hindsight, this trade would have made the Rockets an instant championship contender IMO.
     
  16. Marsarinian

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    You think Morey never thought about the stuff you think about after a couple of beers? This whole Marcus Camby thing is just laughable. Denver actually has better interior defense without Camby, relying on that guy who lost a testicle. Marcus Camby's just a stat raker, not a smart team defender. Williams? First of all, he has a huge contract. Second, we would have to give up expirings and picks to get him. He never proved to be such a good team player until this season in Cleveland. It seemed like a big gamble, and the Cavs were on fanatical all chips in mode anyway. Question 1: how could we have gotten him? Question 2: what if he doesn't pan out in our system, like Artest? Who would have thought that Artest was going to kill our offense? Where are the people that sang Morey's praise when he acquired Artest? Where are those people, huh?
     
  17. Marsarinian

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    Feigen said that the details of the offer remains unknown, but basically Dumars had an assistant call the rocket and offered a couple of player (likely including Billups) for T-Mac and said "take it or leave it." Morey responded with interest, and wanted to discuss the deal with other players. They took it off the table. That's it.
     
  18. joesr

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    I heard otherwise that it was a local detroit radio station spreading this so thxs for the insight.

    and your right, regardless if tmac rehabed correctly or not, that trade would have been a plus for the rockets (yes even a healthy tmac playing like last year)
     
  19. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    I don't want my PF parked out side chunking up 3's. Scola is a good athletic PF that can shoot. I want a SF that can drive and hit the 3's like Wafer can. We've just got to be patient to get rid of Tmac.
     
  20. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    Quoted for Truth.
     

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