So where does she work again. I have 15 extra dollars and I need all the (hot) ass I can get working for me.
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Since the waiters/servers are responding to this one, I have a side-question to ask. Is tipping expected for takeout orders? Sure, there's a little work involved in taking the order and putting the stuff in a bag, but I'm never sure what to do. If it's at a resturaunt that I am a regular at and I know the person taking care of me, I might throw two dollars on the CC slip (I never carry cash). Otherwise, I just leave the tip section blank. Heck, Pappasitos even adds an extra percentage (5%?) to takeout orders. So what do you guys expect?
No sane person will wait tables for minimum wage. Nor will restaurant owners pay a guaranteed rate to waiters-no incentive. Restaurant business is ultimate free market-very competitive-they are not going to pay minimum wage in my lifetime. Tipping to waiters passes the cost to the customer directly. If the tip is low-no noe can come back on the restaurant. Very hard work for very little money. I sympathize with wait staff. The public can be so rude....
I think restaurant owners / mgrs would balk at paying $ 8.00 guaranteed per hour. that is a very high cost that would become part of overhead every week. tipping pays the wait staff without it afffecting the restaurant's overhead. And for the wait staff it is "all about the tip"-yeah- I like money and my work, but I need money to live- so yeah it is all about the money!!! the American way! I would argue it takes more to keep up with orders, be a diplomnat on your feet to some arrogant customer, and deal with other people in your environment that it does to operate a weed eater or pound sand in a rat hole. It is not a fair comparison to compare waiting tables to working in a yard. Maybe washing dishes.....compares to operating a weed eater or lawn mower.
MINIMUM WAGE?!?!?!? With the extent of ass kissing involved, there's no way I would be a waiter right now if I wasn't making 20+ dollars an hour doing it. No way. Keep the $5.15 and get your own damn food - I'll go work in some office cube!
If you don't like to tip, order it to-go. No one says they want to serve a patron like you. AND, if you did not tip waiters, I can promise you this: Most of them wouldn't be that nice to you and you wouldn't have that nice of a time. Stay home, cook it yourself, put the tip in your me me me me fund.
My grandpa owned a resturant when I was a kid and I'd help out by waiting tables ( I was 8 so all I did was take orders) but I know judging by the fact that I never got paid that it's not feasible. According to him, paying waiter $8 an hour would severely take away from profit and you'd barely be solvent. They depend on customers to tip so they can afford to serve you food. It's an expensive business.
To answer the original question it's not very hard to figure out if gratuity was added or not. Once they hand you back your card with the slips to sign you simply take a look at the receipt printed and look to see if the 18% service charge was added to the total or not. The line for "tip" that you saw was likely just there if you wanted to add any additional tip to the 18%. I waited tables all throughout college and I can tell you that waiting on parties of 10 or more is a pain in the ass. Parties are so time consuming that you usually ended up neglecting your other tables thus lowering your other tips all so you can bust your ass for some party and the 18% (bare minimum) gratuity that you likely have to split with somebody else anyways. At my restaurant, for parties of eight or more we were required to use two servers.
So about 4 of my friends worked at Pappasito's in high school/college. They said there was never a week where they didn't bring in on average $15/hour. that doesn't even include the huge tips every once in a while. I thought that wasn't too bad.
Waiting/bartending can bring in some good money depending on the place you are at. I usually tip very well, but Saturday out at Sam's Boat I didn't. This waiter was all over the place haning out, talking to people, trying to get numbers while the table of 5 we had were sitting there waiting for him. Some of us got up and went to the bar ourselves to get drinks. On at $65 tab I just left him about 6 bucks. I didn't want to leave that as he was more interested in hanging out with friends and getting numbers instead of doing his job.
My wife had a table of 12 the other night at Taste of Texas. They all ordered hamburgers and the salad bar. For all 12, the bill was $160, which all her two-tops surpassed. They left her a generous 10% tip. She also had a guy with his two kids. All their steaks came out overdone which, of course, is not the fault of the server (which is something that a lot of people don't seem to understand). She immediately had a manager go over there to apologize and a different manager visited the table three times after that to make sure they were taken care of. They received their appetizer and desserts for free. After my wife dropped off the bill and went to the back to get something for another table, the guy left without paying at all. Not only was she out at least $15 (for a typical 15% tip), the store had to cover the loss. Luckily, they have cameras in the parking lot that caught his license plate. But yeah, all servers are just whiners.
Trust me, I try to avoid eating out. On the other hand, I am a rather generous tipper, but I don't like that it is expected. The idea that stepping and fetching deeserves twenty bucks an hour like Blotto said is rediculous. Waiters aren't doing brain surgery, they are passing a message from the customer to the cook, then returning carrying food. Also, I couldn't care less about the waiter being nice. If I get what I ordered and get through all the stages in a timely manner, I am happy. The waiter could be mute and I wouldn't care. Maybe I have crazy different hopes of what my waiter will do for me.
A lot of waiters don't give you what you want in a timely manner. I can't tell you how many times I haven't been greeted within my first five minutes of sitting at a table or have waited five minutes for my tea or water to be refilled or have sat there for 10 minutes waiting on some extra ranch or something. It's easy to be a waiter when you do that. When those things are done in a timely manner and without attitude given by the server, I tend to reward them for that because you figure if they're doing it for you, they're doing it for their three or four other tables as well. That's typically six hours of running your ass off so your customers don't have to sit there and wait on things. Of course it's not brain surgery (and they're not being paid like brain surgeons), but giving good service at a restaurant is not easy. And to say that all waiters do is pass on a food order to a cook and then returning that food is absurd. They are typically there an hour before they have customers and an hour afterwards to make sure everything is ready for their shift or the next. They're also constantly doing other things like making tea/coffee, refilling ketchup bottles, sweeping the expo line, rolling silverware, etc. Some of you act like they write something down, give it to the cook, then scratch their ass for 10 minutes.
All of that is secondary. Their job is eactly to pass on a food order and return with the food. If your waiter does that, they have completed what the customer expects of them. I don't care if they take a nap, sweep the floor, make coffee, write a symphony, turn tricks in the bathroom, or do anything else in the meantime. Even including all of the things you said, all of that is unskilled labor. None of those jobs requires more skill than digging a ditch, cleaning bathrooms, or picking fruit. In fact, I would much rather do everything you posted in a nice temperature controlled environment than go pick peppers in the sun all day. For comparison on the $20/hr wage level, some other jobs are aircraft mechanic, radiological technician, electrician, carpet installer, brick- and stonemason, technical writer. That comes from the department of labor. I would say waiting is either less labor intensive or requires less skill than any of those jobs. Excuse me if I have trouble finding sympathy for this whiniest of occupations. link
I stopped reading right there. You have obviously never waited tables. You can b**** about whether or not the tipping system is the desirable one, but to say the rest of their job is secondary is absurd. If you don't perform those other duties, you will be fired. And you as a customer will probably b**** that there's no tea left or your ketchup bottle is empty or that you don't have any silverware to eat your food with. Plus the fact, quit acting like all you hear about are waiters b****ing about their jobs. In every job I've had (well, maybe not Swirve), there are people who b**** about their jobs. Whether it's some cheapskate not giving a tip for the service he was given (and knew it was expected when he decided to dine at a sit-down restaurant) or someone at an office job complaining about their managers or a construction worker b****ing about their foreman, every job has people that complain about them. You act there's a server union that's bought airtime on all the major networks to b**** about people who give them a $5 tip on a $100 bill.
