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A new kind of politics: Muslims barred from photo @ Obama event

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. mc mark

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    As has been pointed out earlier in this thread, crazy ass wing nuts had a conniption when Rachel Raye was in a Dunkin Donuts commercial with in a scarf that looked like something a terrorist would wear. The reason the volunteers (not the campaign) hesitated and didn’t want them in the picture was not because of discrimination against Muslims, but because they didn’t want crazy ass conservatives screaming Obama is a Muslim because he’s got them behind him at a campaign event.
     
  2. Pistol Pete

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    Everyone deserves the right to be treated equally.




    So now you add deception to your list of ok things to do to win an election.

    1. prejudice
    2. deception

    Some of his supporters even said they would support him if the crack and bj story was true.

    Where do you draw the line?

    If he's truly about being a different type of politician Obama would have let them sit there and dealt with it later by defending their right as Americans to be there. Obama's supporters claim no harm was done over his 20 year association with a racist. Where are Obamas prinicipals on this one? He can stand up for a racist preacher but let a Muslim sit behind him and they've got to go.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    ^ aren't you one of the organ grinder monkeys who was b****ing that you can't refer to him as a secret muslim or call him Hussein for kicks?

    Pick a side, ill skillz- are you for muslims or against them. And do me a favor and avoid playing the white-guy victim card which is your answer for everything because it ain't relevant here.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    its a photo op, he isn't denying anyone's right to live or even a chance to be at his event.






    for photo ops




    at a real issue, btw, obama did apologize to these people

    here we go again with the preacher, keep harping, it apparently works
     
  5. Lil Pun

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    Anyone can figure out the simplistic motive you laid out and don't dismiss that the volunteers were giving specific instructions as to whom to allow behind Obama. They damn sure weren't going to let people with a McCain sign behind Obama.

    The bigger picture is.....Obama isn't who he claims he is. He isn't about a different kind of politics. There are sheep falling for his crap mantra every day just look at this forum.
     
  7. Pistol Pete

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    No he's discriminating against them for an unjust reason. He's also showing he's afraid to to tackle an issue. There's not a damn thing wrong with muslim people supporting him.


    In lieu of making sure his campaign managers spread the word not to discriminate against people. That's called backtracking after the fact. Obama is good at that.....



    All this adds up to Obama's lack of integrity. You seem to ignore that OBama doesn't have a spine.
     
  8. mc mark

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    It's simple because it's the truth. Ever heard of Occam's Razor?
     
  9. pgabriel

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    that's not the issue, the issue is people falsely claiming his religion is islam. he doesn't want to feed that lie. unfortunately its an issue.





    you or i don't know what happened

    i'm not going over rev. wright with you again, have a nice day
     
  10. Pistol Pete

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    Excuse me??? Dude you need to settle down. You do not need to refer to me in that manner or put words in my mouth.

    Muslims are people too, I have nothing against Muslims. Are a lot Muslims unfairly associated with terrorists. Yes, they are.

    Is that fair? No.

    Do I support terrorists of any religous faith. No, I don't.

    Is Obama supposed to be proud of all the races and religions that make up this country? Yes, he is supposed to if he wants to be POTUS.

    Is he? Only when it's convenient....

    I've told you a few times to stop telling me how to post. I've also told you your opinion of my posts is wrong. That's abundantly clear when I have not mentioned anything about white people being victimized in this thread.

    I asked you to find someone else to argue with so that you didn't continue to get made a fool of. It's unfortunate that you didn't take that advice...
     
  11. Pistol Pete

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    Every heard of a spineless politician?
     
  12. SamFisher

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    While we have your attention can you please explain your obsession with race and your continual use of the racism/racist label, just like you are doing again here?

    Were you the victim of anti-white discrimination or not? YOu are always going on about it, I just need to get a response for closure purposes.
     
  13. Pistol Pete

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    That's already out there and not going to go away by discriminating against Muslims. That feeds in to the hate some have for Muslims. Running from it is the sign of a coward. Obama would have been better to deal with it head on then go with some weak apology to the people he offended.

    But he's a politician and that's not what politicians do, now is it?

    But that screws up Obama's whole message of change? He's no different than the other politicians and we you embrace that truth, you see nothing but an empty campaign. Tough pill to swallow, isn't it.


    So you don't think the campaign managers sat down and discussed things like who to let in photos beforehand? You don't think Obama met with his campaign managers. Surely if he's elected as POTUS, you will expect him to meet with key people. And when you are running for POTUS, campaign managers are considered key people.

    I wouldn't either if I was an Obama supporter. It's something you can't defend.
     
  14. Pistol Pete

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    Sam,

    The thread is about Obama, not me. I didn't specifically bring up anti-white discrimination in this thread so how am I "going on" about it. You keep making things personal between you and I. I've asked you to stop a few times. This thread had discussions about Muslims, race, and discrimination in it. Unless you thought I was replying only about white muslims (which I was not) then you are trying to start another dumb argument with me.

    Did I bring up race in this thread first? No, I did not. You do not have the right to tell me how to construct my posts. If you don't like them, don't read them.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    You are whining about discriminatory treatment of Muslim-Americans. Once again, discrimination (this time religious, but closely linked with race) is your one-trick pony that you are prancing around the BBS like prize-winning Stallion, boasting, gamboling, and leaping.

    I find this ironic for the same reason that you make the pretense of questioning Obama - you claim to deplore the use of race but here you are, crying racism and discrimination yet again. Your abject double standard is on display for all to see.

    I am just wondering where all of your race-consciousness emanates from - you might be the most racially sensitive poster here.
     
  16. thegary

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    i think it's because of his handle. it confuses him.
     
  17. mc mark

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    sigh

    I'll take that as a no.

    So carry on with your ignorant self.

    BTW it's not polite to answer a question with a question.
     
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    well before the ill skillz train wreck happened bnb and i were trying to get answer to why you feel that it is a lie. i'm just curious where you are coming from with that perspective.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And now we see the whole effect of Political Correctness come full circle and bite the very adovcates of it in the butt.

    When we start to get all wrap around a few words here and there, starting with misintrepretations of a golfer or a stupid word like macaca and nappy headed hoes - where does it go to - now everywhere anything anyone might say or do becomes controversial on boths sides. A dunkun donuts commerical becomes controversial and now you have people so afraid of being controversial - actual rights get trampled upon - against those who most need it defended - a very unpopular minority at the moment.

    Muslims are being demonized, and no less then the same PC engine that was used to supposedly protect minorites and in fact being used to discriminate because that's what happens when we start becoming reactive to anything controversial - that hypersenitivity works both ways.

    If minorities become hypersensitive about this or that when it's really not a big deal, guess what, the other side is going to do the same. And all of a sudden, everyone is trying to portray the right image even if it's at a cost to some.
     
  20. Pistol Pete

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    No one is whining, I'm making points that you can't dispute so you turn the argument back on me. That's the sign of a defeated opponent.

    The double standard is that when I point out examples of racism, you have to put it in to categories. Anti-white racism, anti-muslim racism etc. I don't see you labeling anti-black racism. Racism is racism and it's effects are felt toward all races. There's no need for you slap ethnic labels on racism.

    For you and others to pretend that Obama hasn't time and time made racial stereotypical comments is laughable. Again Sam, I didn't bring race in to this thread, I commented on it. Others are concerned enough to open threads with racial issues in them. Get it in your head, it's none of your business how I construct my post and for you to follow me around whining isn't very becoming. Your one trick pony act is me slapping your stupid posts down. And some of these sheep who agree with you isn't impressing me one bit.
     
    #100 Pistol Pete, Jun 20, 2008
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