It sounds like something an idiot like Kerry would say. No Bush has not done a good job in managing the war but what would Kerry have done. I know people who always vote democrat but in the last election, were forced to vote for Bush because they just could not stand Kerry. Any other democrat would have had a better shot at becoming president in the last election and making a difference in Iraq. Kerry is an IDIOT, his statement was IDIOTIC one, and he most definately was not directing his comment at Bush.
I can't believe I am doing this, but he was directing the comments at Bush. it's quite clear he botched what would've otherwise been a joke at Bush's expense.
although i'm not a fan of Kerry, I give him more credit then that...especially considering he was "dumb" enough to go to Vietnam.
Yeah, like I said - in context I agree. I was more responding in this thread 'in defense of' the soldier who wrote the letter. He may well have gotten the sound bite instead of the whole thing in context. Since there are others who propagate the 'military only recruits the uneducated,' hearing the soundbite might lead one to believe he was attacking the troops.
but we don't even know if the letter was written by a soldier in Iraq - was their a link to anything credible?
The white house admitted it was a joke, FOXNEWS said it was a joke, why do you really believe that Kerry would make fun of the troops?, Kerry still wants a future in politics and making fun of American soldiers is not a good way to do that. Kerry volunteered for Vietnam and he McCain and Murtha have been have been some of the biggest supporters of our troops. Please, beliefs that Kerry was intentionally insulting the troops might be the norm on the play-ground among those who just hate Dems. because there parents watch Foxnews, but please .....
My gut says it's fabricated...so I take the opposite track. No link...and the letter sounds contrived - written by someone with ulterior motivations - it doesn't come across as genuine. And why is it annoymous?
And no actual colleges, universities, or majors listed. Might have expected him to cite a more prestigious honor society, like Phi Beta Kappa, or graduating c*m Laude or something: Golden Key is more of a high school thing, isn't it? Although the response of the other marine, about making political statements being in violation of military code, would explain anonymity if it were true. Did Kerry call Iraq volunteers murderers and rapists? I thought he said that back in the early seventies, when he was testifying about Vietnam. He'll never be President, but he'll always be political/rhetorical gold to liberals like me: war veteran, corruption-free Senator.
I agree. The whole things reads like a mass email. Even if it was real, the dude is clearly an idiot because he is arguing about something that never happened. Perhaps if he had used that wonderful education that he brags about and read up on what really happened, he would have know that it was a botched joke.
Or its possible that he got the soundbite, as it appeared out of context in multiple places, and does not have the time while IN IRAQ to google all day. Rather than reading like a mass email I think it reads like a lot of soldiers think and in the esteem that many of them hold Senator Kerry. Either of those make him far from an idiot, and holding the position that someone who doesn't believe as you do 'is clearly an idiot' is the exact sort of mistake that's kept the Democrats out of power for the last six years.
Good letter. Kerry is a piss poor public communicator, and an even worse coomedian. He has no touch, he needs to get out of the public eye forever, he is hurting his party. He may work in Massachusettes, somehow, but he is a killer on a national level. On some level, I think he is embarasssed about who he is, which is odd, but it comes through. From a communications perspective, he makes Al Gore look like Bill Clinton. And if you're going to be trying to inspire and lead a party or a country, you need to be able to connect. i loved when he said how "giddy" he was about the red Sox while he was trying to look tough in hunting gear. He is clueless. Leave the national scene to a new generation of people who can communicate.
John Kerry is just pathetic. And I mean that in the sense that he embodies pathos. You would have to have a heart of stone not to feel for a guy who wants something so badly that he can't help but make it impossible for himself to get it. Like the social misfit who pathetically always tries too hard... But it would help if he were just honest. That was a joke? It was aimed at George Bush? I mean, how is that supposed to have worked? I presume that Bush was meant to be the bad example. But then the joke has to work like this: On the one hand, you can study hard, get a good education, and go on to get a great job and succeed in life. On the other hand you could be like George Bush -- who has the most powerful job in the world (a job Kerry is pitifully desperate to win for himself), who got his degree from Yale -- and who studied hard enough to get better grades than John Kerry did. If Dubya was really Kerry's target, wouldn't Kerry be saying, "If you emulate Dubya by studying hard, getting a good education, and going on to get a great job, then you will wind up stuck in Iraq -- so don't go there, it ain't worth it"? John Derbyshire may think it's "obvious" that that's what Kerry meant, but considering how at every possible point Bush is the opposite of the kind of bad example Kerry was trying to draw, I would say you can only say that Kerry "obviously" meant Bush if you are also prepared to say that Kerry "obviously" has the approximate IQ of a goldfish. Which, considering the mind-bogglingly creative ways that Kerry finds to make an utter ass of himself in public, is certainly a defensible position. But I think it's much more likely that Kerry, who built his political career by denigrating American soldiers and holding them up to public contempt, simply forgot temporarily that outside of the fever-swaps of the nuttier Democratic fringe, Americans have long since moved past the negative and inaccurate Vietnam-era stereotype that anybody with half a brain would obviously find something more useful and congenial to do with his life than to waste it in the defense of his fellow-countrymen and their freedom. I think Kerry's true opinion of the average military man escaped into the open for a moment. But I could certainly be wrong. He could really just be that stupid. Of course, since this is John Kerry we're talking about, the most likely explanation is that both theories (stupidity, and contempt for the military) are true: he holds grossly inaccurate stereotypes about American soldiers, and he was stupid enough to forget that he was supposed to be pretending to admire and respect the troops. Only Kerry knows, and I think we can count on him to say what he thinks he needs to say to get elected President rather than what is actually true...which of course means that we can count on him to use this opportunity to say all kinds of things that will actually keep him out of the Presidency, under the impression that he is helping his own cause. However, if you're a Democrat in a borderline district, Kerry has just given you a huge opportunity. You should hold a press conference right now in which you condemn Kerry's statement and quote all the statistics on how well-educated and admirable our soldiers are. You should go out of your way to say that our military are the cream of the crop, and that anybody who looks at a college education and thinks, "Hey, that's a good way to keep from having to go into the military," is a person whose sentiments you hold in contempt. It's an absolutely golden opportunity to publicly place yourself in the mainstream. But you'd bloody well better take that opportunity to climb to success over the political corpse of the junior senator from Massachusetts...or else you're likely to be dragged down by association, because Sen. Kerry unfortunately has a (D) after his name rather than an (R). At least that's how it appears to me. What a maroon that guy is. I wonder how much Karl Rove is paying him...
Well, who did this anonymous soldier send the letter to? How did it appear here? No source. No nothing. A kid by his computer could have written it and sent it out and it just got picked up on conservative blogs or whatever. There's no credibility here. And that's the problem.
Why the hell would a kid waste his time writing a long ass letter to just screw with people like you? What would be the point of just making it up?
