Vince completed 60% of his passes last year. he wasn't horrid. Now you guys are predicting low wonderlic scores. Priceless, you've been calling him Radio since he got there even though he's hand your asses to you, he's one of the highest rated passers as far as efficiency and you still question his intelligence. he has the most efficient game in UT history. the only intelliegence that should be questioned once again is Aggie brain power.
Vince never handed our asses to us, cedric benson did last year and ramonce taylor and rodrique white saved your asses this year. Its easy to complete lots of passes when you dump everything off in the flats.
The bottom line is if IC2000 weren't an aggie, he wouldn't be making this argument. Anyone that could say that Reggie Mcneal is a better quarterback that VY is delusional. I think Reggie may be quicker and he has a stronger arm, but Reggie is inaccurate and has NO touch and I question his heart. He will throw a 5 yard out, 100mph and high. NFL scouts may think they can change this, but it hasn't changed over the 4 years hes been at A&M so who knows.
It's hard to get your point across when you post dumb comments like You just come off as some dumb homer who puts no basis behind his posts. Rocketeen had a nice post, I don't agree with most of it, but atleast he tried to put some logic behind it.
[QUOTE=reggietodd I think Reggie may be quicker and he has a stronger arm, but Reggie is inaccurate and has NO touch and I question his heart. He will throw a 5 yard out, 100mph and high. NFL scouts may think they can change this, but it hasn't changed over the 4 years hes been at A&M so who knows. This has been a problem only this year. His accuracy and touch were awesome until this year. His top 4wrs were missing for the majority of the year. Its hard to pass to what he had left. Fran tried to turn him into an option qB which was something he was not. He is fast but not an option QB. My argument is that he will be a better pro and that Vince gets too much credit for his teams success. I think Reggie would have done the same things if he had a better supporting cast like vince has. You can call me delusional if you want.
The game was not what I expected, but a win is a win... Vince had his chances to shine, but didn't...He has to step it up next game...
This is by far one of the dumbest argument I've seen. Anyone who think Vince Young is a better quarterback then Matt Leinart should be taken out back and shot. Seems like the best argument anyone can come up with for Vince being a better QB then Leinart is that he can run the ball better. I've also heard such solid srguments as "He won a Rose Bowl". Are you kidding me? Who cares how many yards a game Leinart runs for? He's a drop back passer , not a scrambling QB. Is Seneca Wallace better then Joe Montana because he can run with the ball. Leinart has two national titles, a Heiman and has lost 1 game in the past two seasons. Vince isn't on his level as a player , sorry fellas. Young has improved and had a good season. All he's accomplished so far is winning a Rose Bowl. Get back to me when he wins multiple national titles and a Heisman. I remeber UT fans trashing this guy at the beginning of last season and now he's God all of a sudden? Vince is a great college PLAYER and a good college QB, Leinart is great. It's yet to be determined if Young will develop enough to even be a QB at the NFL level, Leinart will be the #1 or #2 pick. Did someone compare Desmond Howard to Reggie Bush in this thread? Players like Howard and Rocket Ismail were fast , undersized receivers who were amazing college players (much like Young's fate might be) but never could take it to another level in the pros. Reggie Bush is a running back with the talent to do everything. He's also 200 lbs. You don't think they are going to put 15-20 lbs of muscle on this dude before he even steps foot on the combine field? He gets the Heisman hands down and that's the way it is. If you want to be a UT Homer and say Young deserves it you just lose credibility. As for Young's lovely display of sportsmanship on the sideline of the game on Friday , you're right, we don't know why he was pouting. However, his team was winning and normally when your team is winning you don't isolate youself from your team and sit by yourself and pout like a baby. Vince has had plenty of poor performances before (I think someone already referenced them earlier) and he never pouted like that. My personal opinion is that it was because he knew he was losing the Heisman. It's an opinion but it's a highly believable one. Funny thing is, I like UT and Young. I just think that it's ridiculous for people to call him a better player then Young or Bush when they have no valid argument to back it up. That's really the bottom line here, you can say what you want but at the end of the day Young just doesn't measure up to Bush or Leinart.
nealy left because after he tore his knee they brought in a different coach who brought in a kid he coached in high school who knew he screwy gimic, no real set plays, offense. just walk up to the line of scrimmage and snap it. it's weird and you can't blame a guy for leaving, because there was no way he going to pick that up over a guy who the knew they system already. barrick will be drafted and have a chance to play on sundays, kolb....well....won't.
Really? I might be missing something here but I didn't realize they had already given out the award. Young isn't getting hte Heisman unless Bush completely crumbles in the UCLA game (and they can't stop the run) and Young has around 500 yards of total offense against Colorado.
I think he was referring to Leinart. Most UT fans I've talked to, and I feel the same way, have no problem with Bush winning over Young. I don't think you can say for certain that Leinart is better than Young or vice versa. Pointing out that Leinart has won a Heisman and 1.5 championships doesn't mean a thing when most people would agree that Leinart's supporting cast has been better over the last couple of years. What would VY do on USC?
Ugh, this argument is about Vince vs. McNeil. Maybe you should show us where anyone says VY is a better QB than Leinart?
It says right there that you can't say leinart is better. And its MCNEAL NOT MCNEIL, my opinion is that mcneal will be better. I don't want to argue with someone who thinks young is even close to leinart though.
Huh? So, when VY gets 2nd in the Heisman voting over Leinart, you don't want to argue with the Heisman voters either?
