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A lineup change in order for G3?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by YallMean, May 1, 2019.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    This is literally false. It matters how well you play defense, and it specifically matters more than rebounding. You can google it.
     
  2. Aruba77

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    I strongly agree with this. Yes, we've been in both games while playing like crap, but we dont have an answer for KD and we are getting killed on the boards, which is giving them 2nd chance opportunities. The turnovers are terrible but im not worried about those. Those we can fix. Its the rebounding im freaked out about. And that we can only fix if MdA stops going small all the time. We need more out of our best rebounders: clint, manimal, Nene and Tucker. But to get more out of them they've gotta be on the floor. We need MDA to make some adjustments. Is he capable?
     
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  3. Voltik

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    I don’t need google to tell me what logically makes sense. Instead of comparing defense and rebounding separately, think about the consequences of not having one or the other.

    First, I’ll admit defense comes before rebounding and leaving players wide open will result in less rebounds as shots go in. However, if you can’t get rebounds, you give up more possessions to an elite offensive team that shoots effieciently from the floor. After the offensive rebounds, the defense is in disarray so easier to score.

    Rebounds have been our Achilles heel for this year and moreso when we go small with 3 guard lineup. Against the Warriors, you can’t give them that large of a rebounding edge as they will most likely score on the second possession since the defense can’t recover properly, easier put backs and open shooters. You can’t defend the Warriors in this scenario.

    One caveat, great defense also forces turnovers, which is the Achilles heel for the Warriors and not the case for Warriors.

    We lost Game 2 due to lack of rebounds and costly turnovers.
     
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    The sad thing is that we outshot the Warriors in game 2, and shot really well (I think 43%) from 3. That’s worrisome.

    Can’t allow GS to get 14 more shots at the hoop, and that’s related to both TO not allowing us to get shots up, and offensive rebounding. I get the feeling MDA is going to look at those and say, you know what.. if we take better care of the ball and had 5 less TO, we probably make up that 6 point gap we lost by. Being at home, where role players typically step up, he may think to leave things alone.

    I think he needs to try out some other options, whether trying two bigs together, or just playing small ball with Tucker and having everyone collapse for the rebound. It’s hard, that hamptons 5 lineup is a bad matchup, either for us defensively or on the boards. Really need to address PF position this offseason, let PJ start at 3 with EG coming off the bench and a LEGIT PF, not House Jr. oh, and for the love of God, Shumpert needs to stop shooting. 5 minutes, got up 4 open 3s (I wonder why) and bricked them all. Why are you experimenting with someone who has done nothing as a Rocket when the stakes are so high? He shot like 29% from 3 for us..
     
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    I had the same thought. We've never lost a playoff game in the D'antoni era shooting 40% from 3 before. Those are usually the auto win games for us. In most playoff series we have that one game where all the 3s are falling. Well, we just had that game and we still lost. It's tough.
     
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    Faried is unplayable. He can't stay in front of anyone. The only time I put him in is if they play Jerebko and Looney, so he can guard someone slower. Their guards and wings shredded him.

    We need Clint to be a positive if we want to win. That means 1) we have to attack the rim hard enough with Clint as a decoy that they stop hedging between the lobber and Clint; 2) once Clint catches it, he needs to go up STRONG, 3) Clint MUST hit his free throws

    We could use more from House. I think he will deliver. We can't rely on Rivers to be a major positive every night. We definitely cannot depend on Gerald Green for defense. We will get a lot more -16 nights like game 1 than +4 nights like game 2 because they attack him with KD relentlessly.

    We need to take both of these home games - and find a way to steal one in Oracle while taking game 6 at home. Not gonna lie, this is looking grim. Then again, the 2-0 hole against PHX looked grim in 93-94.
     
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    absolutely not true... he can stay in front of ppl.. not always though.. but nobody can always do a perfect job guarding...
    we played him in rs and he was excellent his all around impact is worth risk ...
     
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    This isn't the RS where you can get away with a ton of stuff. none of that matters at this point. your weaknesses are magnified once you get to the postseason. that's why you see alot of players struggle and get exposed
     
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    lol so every team is playing only perfect players?
    he can absolutely stay in front of ppl.. not always though.. but nobody can always do a perfect job guarding...
    he is a PERFECT PLAYER to destroy the worriers
     
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    teams are playing their players that are stepping up obviously and who are keeping their mistakes as minimal as possible. that's what any smart team would do.

    this assumption logic that people want to use isn't how this works. we can hope he plays well but its not a forgone conclusion he will. I'm rooting for him because we absolutely need production from someone else besides rivers
     
  11. foggy94

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    Nearly all variatons of our Tuckwagon lineups so far have plus net ratings. The only minus features Gerald Green. Tuck at C even with House/Shump who have been pretty terrible has a + net rating.

    Play CC when Looney/Bogut is in. Go small everywhere else. They are starting their most effective lineup. It's time we did too.
     
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    I'd like to see us bulk up on 4 and 5 and move PJ to the 3 for starting. We know Gordon + Paul = open looks for Gordon threes. Paul usually leads the second lineup, so maybe that combo can keep scoring momentum going in the second unit. Or jack it up from from the first unit. Who knows at this point? The one thing we absolutely know is that we get wrecked on the boards.

    I don't know what to do with House, and I'd like to see Rivers out there a lot more. Rivers has, IMO, been the overall hero of our playoffs so far.
     
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    I don't really know what can be done but would it be out of the realm of possibility to bench Capela and Gordon for Faried and House?

    Capela has been getting absolutely punked this entire series and we have been getting outrebounded and outhustled. Can Faried make a difference out there with his athleticism, hustle, and rebounding? Or will he get burned on D and make it a moot or worse point? Likewise, House provides some height and length which we need against their lineup. We did pretty well with him mid season when he was starting in place of Ennis. He can shoot, cut, and has the body to defense and body up on Durant alongside Tucker. Or...maybe his youth will expose him and he will be useless.

    Capela off the bench to mirror Looney's minutes - maybe it'll light a fire under his ass or maybe itll extinguish his competitive drive. Gordon to provide a shot creator and scoring punch off the bench which has always been his ideal role with this team. I think he has been good for us in the starting lineup but he cannot rebound. We need to set the tone early. I hope he would understand that.

    I don't know if these ideas are any good but what else can we do? Going super small and starting Rivers instead of Capela seems crazy.
     
  14. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Ok, as long as you're aware defense is more important than rebounding. That's all I was telling you.

    I understand the rest of your post, but it's just fantasizing at this point. It would be nice to be able to play elite defense and rebound. We don't have the personnel.
     
  15. bulkatron

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    This isn’t a good matchup for him, particularly when Curry hunts him relentlessly
     

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