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A Hoax Turned Fatal Draws Anger but No Charges

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by blahblehblah, Nov 30, 2007.

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How should the community and the victims family deal with Lori Drew?

  1. Do nothing and move on.

    22.7%
  2. Harass or beat or run the b**** out of town.

    77.3%
  1. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    Maybe two people have called for a murder charge...maybe. Sheesh!
     
  2. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    Maybe, maybe not. Kids these days have access to computers everywhere. Home, family member's houses, peer's houses, school, libraries, etc. It's almost impossible to totally ban them from Internet/computer usage.
     
  3. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    This girl is the a prime example of our society

    QUESTION: Has American and Americans become mentally and Socially weak?
    We have tried to eliminate competition out of schools.
    We have tried to build self esteem not through accomplishment but new age psychology . . . .and telling them they smart .. with out them proving or doing anything.
    We are raising our children . . .. IMO . . . in a way that is disadvantageous

    We need them to be a bit more tough . . .

    What ole girl did is wrong . . .but we have to look at the action . .. The Intent and then the result

    The actions . . . basically just lying to a 13 yr old
    The intent . . . . Maliciousness - to be hurtful . . .
    The Result . . . . Suicide

    IMO the Intent is about the only thing that is possible punishable . . . Hell if you wanna blame and punish her for the suicide. .. . to an extent . . .will we punish Dr Kovorkian?


    just trying to wrap my mind around everything

    Rocket River
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    I agree with the way we are raising kids, they have become a bit weaker than previous generations.

    The actions: She not only lied to the thirteen year old but she did so in order to garner more, personal information from her and to actually set the girl up for the intent of the entire plot.

    The intent: Maliciousness and hurtfulness for a 13 year old who was already mentally unstable and the adult knew this fact. That's like throwing a lit match into a barrel of gasoline. Nothing good is going to happen.

    The result: Suicide. Avoidable if the adult would've acted as an adult.

    Dr. Kevorkian and this situation are different. I don't think he executed any children, I could be wrong though. And he was punished.
     
  5. Angkor Wat

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    First of all, I made that comment before I heard she was bi-polar. Also, you said the "chemicals in her brain made her feel crappy" and thats why she killed herself, is that a fact? Is suicide caused by "chemicals in the brain"? If it is, its new to me. I always felt that people who committed suicide, knew what they were doing. To be deeply honest, I have no sympathy for ANYONE who kills themselves. I feel that its a cowardly and selfish act. But I'll make an exception for the girl if she was mentally ill and couldn't help herself.
     
  6. Kim

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    Sadly, I guess it's sadly, I know of many parents who totally control this stuff. It's definitely difficult, but there are some hardcore control freak parents out there. Many church cultures have them. Many Asian cultures have them too. I'm not saying it's good or bad, and I'm not saying it works all the time, but I'm just saying it didn't seem like these parents were way hardcore. They seemed like good parents whose kid got totally taken advantage of by sick adults. But in this case, maybe hardcore control freak parents could have helped....could have.
     
  7. Rashmon

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    Please edit your post to remove this terribly offensive insult to any person who has ever lost a family member, friend, or loved one to suicide.

    Some of you folks in here have a lot of growing up to do or you are setting yourselves up for some major emotional trauma when "real life" does not conform to your hastily constructed mental paradigms.
     
  8. MadMax

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    Another dandy reason to not solicit advice in the most meaningful events of your life here. This thread ought to be pasted into every thread where someone is seeking advice here as a caveat.
     
  9. Lil Pun

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    The control freak thing backfires many times too though. Maybe its not as bad a death/dying but still you end up with rebellious drug users, teenage parents, runaways, etc. You're right though, it could've helped, maybe.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Burn the witch.

    DD
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    so, suicide IS NOT jellafied

    and yes, i'm praying i don't burn in hell for that remark
     
  12. rhadamanthus

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    This the third thread now for this topic?

    She deserves a murder charge of some sort.
     
  13. rhadamanthus

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    This woman deserves so much worse. She caused a little 13 yr old to kill herself.


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    Such cruelty. At 49 years old. Can you imagine being the parent of the deceased girl - living next door to the woman who drove your daughter to commit suicide?

    Burn.

    Burn.
     
  14. nokidding

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    If you knew the guy and you knew he was emotionally fragile. You intentionally pissed him off to push him to the edge of killing himself. Then yeah, you deserved to go to jail and get butt fxxked.
     
  15. nokidding

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    Let's see if you knew a guy has a weak heart and is at "the tipping point" of a heart attack. You punched him right at his chest and killed him. Can you argue "It is a weak punch. A strong guy can take that punch. So I didn't kill him. He killed himself"?
     
  16. nokidding

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    well said!
     
  17. Apollo Creed

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    I wish this topic would just die. It pisses me off with no resolution every time I think about it.
     
  18. rrj_gamz

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    Agreed...and well said rcoleman15...
     
  19. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    This is ridiculous. I just don't buy that nothing sits above the law. Human life and morality sits above the law, and human imperfection lives in the law.
     
  20. rcoleman15

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    I don't know if you have heard but resolution might be on its way as Lori Drew was indicted by a federal grand jury on May 15th with four charges pertaining to this case. Now I was going to type this on my own but god bless wikipedia and the people who consolidate info on the various topics there:

    What your fixing to read is taking place right now. In fact one of the main participants Ashley Grills who was granted immunity for her testimony against Lori Drew just testified in court a couple days ago.

    This is from wikipedia and begins from where it started and proceeds form there.

    If Drew is found guilty a penalty of up to five years in prison corresponds to each of the four counts that the indictment carries. So right now Drew is facing the possibility of up to 20 years in jail if found guilty.

    Also here is a story on the testimony that Ashley Grills gave a couple days ago:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/us/21myspace.html?em

    And finally there is some new legislation being proposed to finally try to stop this kind of crap:

    Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act
     

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