It's not murder, its' not even manslaughter.. even though what she did was wrong, it was more the fault of the stupid and gullible 13 year old girl. I mean, killing yourself over a guy you've never even seen or HEARD ("no phone")???? She wasn't the brightest girl that's for sure. She was charged earlier today but I doubt she'll getmore than 1-2 years in prison.
I don’t think what this lady did is really all that different from what child predators do. It’s a situation in which an adult takes advantage of a naïve kid that doesn’t know any better. Sure, nothing sexual happens, but the end result is still the same, long-term psychological damage. Had this been another naïve little kid that picked on this girl enough to drive her to suicide, I don’t there’s an issue.
Another good post. I don't believe in hell, but if it does exist, this woman has a spot reserved for her there.
hey, I get your point Lil pun, and it makes perfect sense.. yes, the lady (Lori or whatever) is pretty twisted and f'd up and r****ded, that was a really horrible joke and she should have better things to do than to mess with an emo 13 year old.. but.. this is gonna go across as a little tasteless, but come on now guys, you can't charge that psycho 40 year old with murder! the girl was mentally ill, r****ded if you will, I was 13 not a very long time ago and I got picked on all the time, I got called a midget, and got made fun of.. it didn't prompt me to hang myself with a belt, it motivated me to pick up basketball and weight lifting, and that improved my confidence and really helped me self-esteem.. but seriously, it's not even a real "boyfriend", she hasn't met him, he (that twisted w****) talked to her on freakin' myspace, imaginary boyfriends that you haven't ever met talkin crap to you isn't a very good reason for suicide.. this could've been avoided in 3 ways: 1. if the parents monitored their daughter's internet activity (but again, this could've been a letter coming in the mail, or a guy in class calling her a fish face) 2. if the parents provided medical care for their psychologically ill daughter- trust me, no one is gonna commit suicide all of a sudden.. chances are, the girl was emo, she wore black, she talked about death and how "mistreated" she is because she is "different". IMO, the parents of all kids that show that kind of behavior should seek help immediately and change the school/avoid the friends that the child hangs out with.. emo-ness is absolutely inexcusable 3. if that idiot sociopath grown up had better things to do than to pull childish pranks on an emo teenager.. again, idiots exist in this world, but the girl could've easily figured out it was a hoax, or even better yet, broke up with this sexy boyfriend of hers.. that's a messed up world we live in..
big difference.. she's 13 for god's sake.. normal 13 year olds don't hang themselves because a "boyfriend" that they've never met called them a w**** on myspace.. how does that 13 year old even have a goddam myspace account? ignorant parents.. very ignorant parents.. and ignorant society that we live in that isolates weirdos that dress in black and cut themselves instead of embracing them trying to help them and get them away from that Marilyn Manson Schtick..
wtf @ people calling for a murder charge!??! what a weak society we live in today!!!!!!!!! soon as feelings are hurt everyone wants to elect president charlie.
I wonder what kind of harassment they have received since this story went public. Mob justice? The town hammer of gossip? Poo bags? In any case, HAAAAAA.
The lady does not deserve a murder charge. She already has to live with knowing that she was the reason a 13 year old girl killed herself. But seriously though she knew the girl was on anti-depressant medication why would she even say something like that to her. Anyway I'm sure she is getting hell for what she did either way.
RocketsMac I gotta ask where are you getting your info on Ms. Meier. Because I have to say almost all of it is dead wrong. This little "mentally ill, r****ded" girl as you put it was in fact a thirteen year old girl who suffered from severe BPD (Bi-Polar Depression). She was an extremely vibrant little girl who was finally learning to cope with her illness to a point where she was starting to learn how to live a normal life once again. This is the only thing that I have read of yours that has been right. I hate to break it to you but they did monitor her computer usage. Mrs. Meier's was obsessive about it. She even conversed with the Josh persona on a couple of occasions. They were providing medical care for their daughter she was receiving both therapy and medications for her BPD. You know I might be retired now but 30 plus years of law enforcement (with stints in NYC, Washington DC, and lastly San Antonio) tell me you are dead wrong. I have seen plenty of suicides (more than I will ever care to remember) that were basically spur of the moment "crimes of passion". It happens all the time every single day. Megan Meiers was pretty much he opposite of what you just described. She was quite vibrant, participating in after school activities and sports and was finally making friends again. So I gotta ask again where are you getting your info from. Alright please enlighten us how she would accomplish this. This "Josh" persona was executed to such an extent that Megan's parent thought he was legit. The only reason this was found out is one of the four perpetrators who took turns being "Josh" got a guilty conscience and confessed. Had this confession not taken place no one would have ever known. Granted but you weren't dealing with a sustained ordeal of BPD either. As I stated before Megan Meiers was finally learning to cope with her disease to the point of obtaining a normal life once again. She was happy and thriving and was ecstatic over "Josh" to the point many have said they never had seen her happier. Now with that said those who suffer from BPD are never going to be completely healed. No matter how well they are medicated or are doing in their therapies they are always going to be susceptible to manic episodes if they are confronted with the correct stimulus. Again with that said how do you think Megan was going to react when the person she trusted the most pulled a complete 180 on her and began to verbally assault her in the worst ways possible and the enlisted several others on MySpace to follow suit in attacking her as well. Now that I am done with addressing that. Do I think a murder charge is warranted against Mrs. Drew. No. She did not set out to kill Megan. Now if the charges were applicable I would have her charged with either involuntary or criminally negligent manslaughter. Though she didn't set out to kill Megan her plan still unintentionally led to Megans suicide. Drew's actions were undeniable on that day and she was out to inflict severe emotional and psychological damage to Megan who could take no more damage of that sort at all. Those actions led expressly to triggering Megan's actions. Now you combine that with the fact that Drew knew Megan was a severe BPD (and had previously attempted suicide) and on several occasions had administered Megans meds to her during several sleepovers their daughters had while they where still friends and you have a situation that boils down to this: Lori Drew knowingly and intentionally concocted this plan all the while knowing and ignoring Megan's condition. She then enlisted the aid of her husband, her daughter, and one of her daughters friends in portraying this Josh character. During this time they groomed Megan and gained her explicit trust with their ultimate intentions in being to solicite info out of Megan. When they where done doing this they turned "Josh" on Megan and then enlisted several other Myspacers to do the same which they did. This led to Megan being attacked by several different people which included "Josh". And that ultimately triggered her final BPD episode which led to her subsequent suicide. Now while I know manslaughter charges aren't applicable here I am glad she will eventually be getting some time out of this.
I would have thought an adult posing as a child to pursure a romantic relationship would have been a crime; but I guess there either has to be explicit dialogue (cyber sex) or some attempt to meet and pursue sexual activity. I would think there's a pretty decent civil suit here: maybe either wrongful death or probably just intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Not that the parents are at fault and the perpetrators did go a good job of committing fraud...but I do agree with the sentiment that hardcore hardcore parental control could have stopped all this. Many parents do much more than just monitor computer usage. It's a sick world we live in.
I'm kind of appalled that so many people feel the girl should've just had thicker skin. It's obvious that she wasn't a normal kid with a normal psyche. I've been through worse in my life, and I've never thought about killing myself. Yet I know people with with cuts on their wrists and views the world in a way I could never imagine. Just talking to them make me feel that they're not really "normal" from a regular perspective. Yet I do not see why they should be weeded out. With help, they can contribute to society and live out regular lives. The lady in this case deserves some sort of punishment. Certainly not murder charges, but at least harrassment or or a big civil suit. She deserves quite a bit of punishment. And as for the monitoring of internet usage from the parents, I think it's a tricky point. More and more information these days come from the internet. And it is an incredible tool for those who can use it. Internet is the ultimate double-edged sword for information. Restricting access to it may save a child from going to seeing improper stuff, they also serve to hinder many things one can learn on it.
Now you're just putting in words to make yourself look better I guess. Where did you see that she was into the emo lifestyle? Have you read anything I posted? I DO NOT think she should be charged with murder but to let her go free and clear would be inexcusable. You talk about yourself getting picked on. Are you a girl? Did you have previous mental conditions or problems? If no, then it's not comparable. Adding more things that make you look better, "r****ded"? They did monitor it and the mother read the messages and when she started getting the bad ones the mother made the daughter get off the computer. It was pretty much too late though. They did provide her with medical treatment. She was taking anti-depressant medications and seeing mental health professionals. Guess what, therapy and medical treatments don't always work but I guess they do in your perfect little world. And recent studies have shown that medicines and treatments can actually promote suicidal and depressive behaviors in teens and children. Again you are assuming she is emo (you know what they say about assuming right). Assuming again. Yes, teens always figure out what is fake and what is not, they might as well be adults after all. That's about the only thing you've said I agree with.
Your post keep getting more comical as you go along. It's been said several times that the teen was getting treatment for her mental health issues so in a sense she wasn't "normal" like people in your perfect little world. I've seen people younger than 13 with MySpace accounts. Assuming again.
