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A Deeper Look Into How Little Abuse TMAC Has Taken

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zantabak1111, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. CHI

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    Bender is a different case altogether.

    Tracy is given this built in excuse for playing poorly because he supposedly has so many miles built up for an NBA player, and because he came out of high school. But, even if you compare him to Garnett or Kobe... they are both way more productive than him, with even more miles on their bodies.
     
  2. zantabak1111

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    Shaud pain is pain, I can't say I've ever experienced what TMAC is facing but man ronnie lott cut his finger off to keep playing in one freaking game. TMAC has a sore knee and he can't go through and play bball c'mon quit sticking up for him he's make $20M to play a game. When you make more than most neighborhoods make in a year to play a game you show up and play no matter what you feel like.
     
  3. jae713

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    AI is tiny. Haven't you heard the saying "The bigger they are, the harder they fall".
     
  4. Shaud

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    I don't use that excuse, but you can't sit here and compare him to Garnett and Kobe. All 3 are different. He just has bad luck with injuries just like Jermaine O'Neal, Grant Hill and a lot of other players.

    To say his body should be performing at a high level because Kobe and KG bodies are is ridiculous.
     
  5. Shaud

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    T-mac is not Ronnie Lott. Some people can take pain, T-mac struggles with that. I'm not sticking up for him it is common sense. Just because you make 20M doesn't make playing with injuries automatic.

    If it is true he has scoliosis, I guess I can just understand what he goes through because it gave me problems on the court just shooting around.
     
  6. zantabak1111

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    Grant Hill had failed surgeries......TMAC decided to take this past off season off and not workout and get his knee strong, totally opposite situations Shaud.
     
  7. T_Man

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    Come on man.... You need to quit....

    I give Ronnie credit for having the TIP of his pinky finger cut off to play in a game..... ONE GAME and his FINGER...

    We are talking about the man's knee... Surgery is surgery and yes he should have rehabed (Correctly)... But again you are trying to compare apple and oranges.
     
  8. engr_alex

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    wasnt it said that tmac was projected to only play at most 3yrs in the nba because of his scoliosis?

    also, a 6'8'-6'10" wingman is more vulnerable to injuries than a 6'-6'6" guy.
     
  9. t-mac4bigmac

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    I've actually wondered before if the fact that Tracy has never been out of the first round has contributed to his deteriorating skills. I might be getting too deep into this, but its possible that the psychological frustration he's experienced has led to his state now.

    After the first few years of not getting out of the first round, one would come back the next year with more fire and more motivation. But with Tmac, this has happened on a yearly basis, and you gotta wonder if he has any fire left in him to push his body to "give it all". Also consider that after every playoff, Tmac (not Yao for some reason) gets most or all the blame. Honestly, does any other top-caliber player in this league carry a heavier and harsher label than Tmac's "hasn't gotten out of the first round"?... add to that the labels "soft", "non-leader", "selfish", and then of course whatever Clutchfans call him. You would think that would eventually affect you mentally. And many times the body follows the mind.

    This post probably doesn't make sense... maybe I'm just crazy like Tmac :confused:
     
  10. Shaud

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    I seriously doubt the Raptors if he was projected to play 3 years with scoliosis. But who knows.

    I know my doctors said if the curve is so bad that if you have surgery you're basketball career is over, but he didn't have the surgery.
     
  11. God's Son

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    ur whole premise is false. have u ever taken a logic class? cause ur argument does not even make sense. ur not even making a plausible case here

    there is no connection at all between kobe or ai being iron men and tmac and carter and jermain oneal being so injury prone in the past. each case is completely unique and entirely disconnected from the rest

    there is no link here, are u really struggling to understand that?
     
  12. zantabak1111

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    If its psychological reasons I'm disgusted even more. I can imagine if the CEO of my company would cry about everyone coming down on him because he's a failure yet took home a $7M total compensation package last year. You get paid the big bucks to be the hero or the failure.
     
  13. Shaud

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    T-mac is the only that it really comes up about. Im surprised it doesn't come up more when talking about Melo. I guess if he fails to get out the 1st round this year, he will have to hear about it too.
     
  14. CHI

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    But, many people on the board, and many "experts" always mention that Tracy is an "old 29" because he has so many miles on his body... and use that as an excuse for his deteriorating play.

    But, the fact is, he doesn't have that many miles on his body relative to any other player in the NBA. That was the OP's point.
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    I've read the original post like 5 times and I've yet to see the so-called "deeper look" that the title had misled me into believing.
     
  16. zantabak1111

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    I actually took a few minutes of my time to go to nba.com and do a little research and add with a calculator while most other posters just come on ehre and post some nonsense. You may think what I posted is nonsense but the fact is he has played 11,000 less minutes than AI and 3 seasons worth of games less than Kobe
     
  17. God's Son

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    thats again a stupid point cause the number of games hes played is only relevant to HIM and his body taking the beating not anyone else. its only relevant in his case and his injury prone body. its not relevant compared to eveyone else cause 20000 minutes on mcgradys body does not have the same impact as 20000 minutes on ai or kobes

    the experts make dumb comments all the time its not mcgradys fault that they try to draw bad parallels
     
  18. CHI

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    Right, but nobody says Garnett or Kobe is an "old 30" or "old 31".
     
  19. zantabak1111

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    Im ticked so forgive my punctuation in the following...

    Gods son does that refer to Tracy Mcgrady's Son because you seem to be the only guy on earth who can defend a guy sitting out with a sore knee while getting about $250K/game. Let's say you got $250K/day to show up to work regardless of whether you have to perform or not, what's your motivation for doing something??? That is all Im saying with TMAC. Let tracyn look at larry fitzgerald who offered on his own to take a paycut to retain boldin, if Tracy would say ok guys I've netted over $100M in my career and I feel like I'm letting you all down and I'll take a paycut so you can go out and get a 4th weapon to help me I'd jump off his back in no time, but to sit here and saddle our cap and say his teammates "talk too much" because they want him to grow some balls and play a silly game, yea he has to own up to the fact that AI gets his butt handed to him way more often and only weighs 150 lbs. So quit saying different bodies handle things differently, different hearts are what we're talking about. Ron has heart, AI has heart, Kobe has heart, TMAC needs a tampon for his sore knee.
     
  20. God's Son

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    now u talking about money?!! what does that have to do with number of games mac played or his injury proneness? :confused:

    clearly ur just an idiot 12 year old who is venting and doesnt know what the heck hes saying. u keep changing the argument and now ur just b****ing about the guy making too much money to play crappy

    and iam not defending tmac read my other posts to see for urself. i just hate people who cant even argue there points straight and have no sound logic behind their argument
     

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