I'll agree with this. Dorsey definitely had questionable work ethic last year ( hence the whole passport thing, I guess) but I think he's realized if he wants to play, he needs to strap down and get stuff done. I have no doubt his work ethic has considerably improved from last year. Are you questioning if intelligence is a virtue in the NBA? Because Hayes is definitely a smart guy.
the problem is functional strength....it's clear joey has the vertical advantage physically, but chuck has a more solid base. I'm sure joey has strong legs, but i feel like his strength is mostly for show and not that functional on the court...lower body strength that is...very similar to Howard, landry. One thing i never got it why dorsey got so low on his layup attempts..i know hes long, can jump, and get's high on dunks, but he always lays the ball in two handed and barely seems to get over the backboard, even chuck gets layups higher and faster.
yeah i think it's all mental...i believe he tries hard, but get's mixed up somewhere along the way. Maybe they need a different approach for him.
Here's the key point not yet addressed -- Who is more important to us when Yao returns? Let's assume that Yao is our longterm starting C and Scola and Landry command the majority of the PF minutes. The role that Hayes and Dorsey would be slotted for is backup C. In that role, man defense is not as important because you're not going to be facing a high scoring post player. I think you're looking for a high energy guy to run with the 2nd unit, with Lowry, Landry etc. I think that in that role, rebounding is at a premium, particularly offensive rebounding as a means by which our second unit can score. Landry is our low post player and is already a headache on the offensive glass. Pairing him with Dorsey would pose matchup problems, akin to what the Birdman gives Denver. This team, with or without Yao, does not have enough talent. We need more upside to be fulfilled in order to increase our overall talent level. Chuck hayes is steady and you know what youre going to get. But it's not enough. We need to be willing to fail with Dorsey because there's more potential there.
honestly, i would rather get a bosh or amare, give up scola and landry, move chuck/dorsey to back up PF and get a solid and true back up center. Chuck and dorsey will never maximize their talents and effectiveness if they're stuck at the center position. Not to mention we'll be screwed all over again if Yao goes down later. It's a must that we get a legit back up C and move them to the Pf spot..
Dorsey has a terrible work ethic. Even though he got demoted to the D-League, he was still not improving. The Rockets took away his passport, so that he could work on his game. This is the first time I have heard of management taking a passport away from a player. A player that might not have his team option exercised, because of his poor performance. http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1550/dorsey_shocks_in_return_to_memphis/ http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5082683&postcount=16
I just wanted to say, I think Chuck Hayes is a better rebounder then Carl Landry. Still, as a Rockets fan, for all the good things Chuck does, he is a liability especially when it comes to offense and at times, with big men that have good shooting, defense as well.
Chuck is an excellent passer out of the high post. That's something that definitely needs to be considered.
I don't think the work ethic and taking away passport are same thing. I hear Oden always wroks very hard. But we all know what he did...
clutch didnt say he was going to mexico instead of practicing though. It's possible that was the case, but from what clutch said it's not clear. It could just mean he wasn't mature enough to realize it wasnt wise to party so much or put himself in risky or dangerous situations. that shows he still has to mature mentally, not necessarily that his work ethic is poor.
Regarding defense, consider that those charges that Chuck takes aren't always on his own man. His help defense is what causes them as he rotates over to players coming into the lane in order to draw the charge. Chuck's help defense is pretty damn good in that regard.
So true. Chuck plays superb help/team defense. Anyone who doesn't see this isn't paying attention to the games.
I don't think dorsey will replace hayes. I think he'll replace andersen. If you've noticed, in the past two games that dorsey has played, andersen has gotten 0 minutes. Zip. The rockets need presence inside, not jumpshooters (Andersen) also, David Andersen is a stranger to the weight room. Sure occasionally he can post up, but on the defensive end he is DOMINATED.
but that's short term....DA can still be valuable on offense in the future. It's too early to know if he'll make it in the NBA. In the long run hayes and dorsey ar emuch more similar to each other than either of them to DA. You want some versatility...best case scnario is DA and dorsey improving and staying over chuck because they each have something chuck can't learn, while everything chuck has on them is mostly mental.
If the "frequent trips to Mexico" weren't affecting Dorsey's development, there would be no need for them to take a grown man's passport.
Did Clutch say that it was this year? The impression I got was he was not hard working the first year, got demoted, Mexico, blah blah.... then realized "Oh crap I could be out of the league if I don't get my stuff together" and improved on work ethic this year. I know his work ethic last year sucked, but not sure about this year.
