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A Colossal Mistake

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. basso

    basso Member
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    Batman, your boy McCain says the same thing as Lieberman:

    http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/31358.htm

    There's a bi-partisan consensus- join it.

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    A date is not an exit strategy. To suggest that it is only encourages our enemies, by indicating that the end to American intervention is near. It alienates our friends, who fear an insurgent victory, and tempts undecideds to join the anti-government ranks.
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    Think about this for a moment. Imagine Iraqis, working for the new government, considering whether to join the police force, or debating whether or not to take up arms. What will they think when they read that the Senate is pressing for steps toward draw-down?

    Are they more or less likely to side with a government whose No. 1 partner hints at leaving?
     
  2. basso

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    an absolutely reprehensible sentiment. Lieberman advocates for Muslims and the Muslim on the board dismiss it because he's jewish. moreover, you seem to want to leave your muslim "brothers" to the sweet mercies of saddam and his terrorist buddies. ironic, isn't it?
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    is the current iraqi government/US occupation any better than saddam??

    terrorist buddies? was saddam cozy with OBL or Zarqawi? are you Cheneying to us again?
     
  4. basso

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    yes saddam was. in the wake of the afghan invasion, saddam provided zarqawi safe haven.
     
  5. nyquil82

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    Do you even think before you write stuff like this? Pure ignorance. Let me ask you a question: Do you see people as individuals or only as members of whatever group you put them in?
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    proof? link?

    how about my two other questions?

    is the current iraqi government/US occupation any better than saddam?

    was saddam cozy with OBL ?

    and don't be quoting white house officials..
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Zarqawi seeing a doctor in Iraq does not mean the same thing as being given safe haven.
     
  8. basso

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    one could ask the same thing of you. i think that's the issue here. do you see lieberman as anything other than a jew?
     
  9. vlaurelio

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    i guess bush gave safe haven to 911 hijackers too..
     
  10. nyquil82

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    why do you assume that I do? Its apparent that you assume that everyone else thinks like you and only sees things in "groups".

    your failure to answer my question shows that I was right.
     
  11. No Worries

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    Bush also changed their citizenship from Saudi Arabia to Iraq.
     
  12. basso

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    i assume your question about the current government vs. saddam is rhetorical. if you honestly believe there's no difference then there's really no point in having a discussion. as to the other questions regarding Saddam and Zarqawi, OBL, please reference both the 9/11 Commission report and the Senate Select Commission on Intelligence report. they've been discussed exhaustively here, but feel free to google for yourself.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    before iraqis are illegally detained and tortured = now iraqis are still illegally detained and tortured

    do you deny that??

    based on your understanding of 9/11 Commission report and the Senate Select Commission on Intelligence report, how would you say that Saddam were "buddies" with OBL and Zarqawi..

    are are you basing it on the skit you saw on SNL..

    don't you think US had a better working relationship in one time to OBL and Zarqawi than Saddam ever had?
     
  14. mc mark

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    Dance monkey DANCE!!!
     
  15. geeimsobored

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    What are you talking about... The 9/11 commission repeatedly said in its report and in senate testimony that there was no Iraq-Al Qaeda link. Stop taking things out of context.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/
     
  16. Deckard

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    That's very amusing, basso. Joe must be quaking in his Florsheims... Deckard thinks he's damaging his own party, putting blinders on, and just thinks he's an all around fool who's pretending to be a Democrat. I'm glad he's worried about me. Heck, he should go have a "power lunch" with Ralphie Nadir. They have a great deal in common, which is knowingly helping an extremist President get reelected so they can feel good about... something. Being jointly stupid and egotistical? Being carefree about the appointments of lifetime Federal judges by a President even more stupid and egotistical than they are? Oh, one could go on at great length about just how full of themselves and short-sighted those two guys are. I'm not in the mood.

    Crushing dissent? I'm laughing my a$$ off.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  17. Dubious

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    Maybe Joe the Jew?
     
  18. basso

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    i hadn't really wanted to get into this, but since Lieberman's article seems to have sparked such obvious discomfort, due to his religion, it's worthwhile exporing to what extent anti-semitism animates the anti-war movement. certainly, we've seen here ample evidence that any policy that might redound to israel's benefit is strongly opposed by the left, even when that policy has the parallel effect of emancipating muslims. much like conservatives of yore, who rode racial animosity to electoral victory, so has today's democratic party thrown in with obvious anti-semites to gain in hopes of gaining electoral advantage. that otherwise seemingly sensible posters would embrace this tactic astounds me.
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    translation: i'm getting so hammered that I need to change the topic..

    its probably the same extent anti-islamism animates the war mongering movement..

    no more plan to respond to my last post?

     
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    nah, it was more that his policies at the time seemed to have no respect whatsoever for even the slightest hint at a palestinian statehood.

    whereas with dubya, the possibility seemed possible.

    however, some learned the lesson

    dont judge a book by its cover.
     

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