Denniscd - I think you are jumping the gun a bit. Landry looks good and seems to have the tools, but needs time to develop. Scola is getting better with every game but still is a bit away. Maybe by next year, or even in the off season we could look at trading one of the three, but not while we are fighting for our playoff lives. I also agree with the poster that said Hayes would be the one to go. He has the biggest liabilities in his game with the smallest upside. Pryuen - Spot on. It was a goal tending. But I would assert that sometimes those are good plays. The Spurs now know who Landry is and will be more than aware of his position when shooting the ball. If he can get his timing down, he might become a presence for weak side shot blocking.
Chuck is still the best PF fit for this team. That may change if Scola picks up the NBA game and defends consistently. The same goes with Landry. By season's end we may have a real PF controversy but for now I think Chuck needs minutes for this team to be successful. One thing people need to stop thinking, however, is that Scola or Landry is going to become anywhere near as good a defender as Chuck. It ain't happening but if those guys can continue to expand offensively then we don't really need them to be an ELITE defender like Chuck is.
No way we trade Chuck. He is an elite big man defender. Scola and Landry don't have the defensive instincts that Hayes has. Chuck is one of those players you take for granted and don't realize how much you need him until he's gone.
I don't understand how some members who've watched all these games and still say Scola's defense sucks. The guy is an above average defender in this league. Look at how he defended Duncan during stretches last night. Sure, he can't block shots due to his height and lack of ups, but he can take charges, hustle, and get plenty of rebounds. What he lacks in size, he makes up with hustle and passion. Scola's offense is getting better and better with each passing game. I think the problem is, he's still hurrying his shots like last night against the Spurs. Once he gets fully comfortable and settles down, he should be averaging 10/8 easily. No, we need Scola...he's got too much potential and his game is much more polished than Landry or Hayes. Landry is a rookie and he is making the most of his minutes. But he's a very one dimensional player at this moment. He gets the garbage baskets and he dunks it. Unless, he develops other aspects of his game, Scola is not going anywhere.
Teams need good bigmen in the playoffs. Esp. in the Western Conference. We need players who can give Duncan, Boozer, Stoudemire, etc. different looks and fouls if needed. There's no need to trade any of them. Each is helpful to our team because they bring different skill-sets. IMHO Scola has the best offense and flopping ability , Hayes is easily the best defender, and Landry is an energy guy with potential. Keep em all!
Whomever says Scola's defense is not good enough if ****ing nuts....the guy can play FINE defense just watch last nights game, where he was bugging the crap out of Duncan.... Scola needed time to adjust to the NBA game, he has....his foul problems have been limited, and his energy and hustle.....****....I LOVE IT !! He energizes the whole team.... Hayes....should be packing some tweezers because he is well on his way to a good dose of pine. DD
If you were to believe some of the stats that's been throwing around, you would believe GMs are already lining up the door for Chuck.
Just like they WEREN'T doing in the off season. Chuck is a valuable player, but his limitations....nay..his SEVERE limitations are a major problem. He is about an 8 or 9 on defense and a 1 on offense...... Not good enough .... Scola is about a 5 or 6 on defense and a 7 on offense......and Scola's energy....and excitability, is SO important on a laid back team like the Rockets. Scola should be starting, Hayes backing up and Landry eating into Hayes minutes. DD
PF is still one of our weaknesses which is why we don't have even one averaging over 25 MPG. Adelman has been rotating Hayes, Scola and, now, Landry at PF because they all have weaknesses. I definitely wouldn't trade Scola unless it brings something too good to pass up on. Other than that, we need three serviceable PFs since none of them have yet proven to be our bonafide starter.
yeah right, the spurs have duncan to play center or forward when they need offensive production or a defensive presence. he can matchup with any big in the league regardless of position. the rockets on the other hand have... yeah, right. a good rotation with three players might do it but it will always be a weakness. and it will only work if every one of those playes plays up to his strengths. i doubt you can always count on all of our pfs to be effective at the same time. nonetheless the rockets should keep hayes, scola and landry unless they could get a better pf in return.
I agree with this assessment. Hayes was a fine short-term solution in the past when we were desperately lacking other PF options. At some point, it will be time to bid adieu to Mr. Hayes. He is, at best, a backup player in this league. More likely, he is Euro material like Luther Head.
the one thing i love about landry is that he always dunks the ball. i get really annoyed when chuck and scola miss layups.
Hayes is by far the best post defender on this team, and a top 5 post defender in this league. HAYES IS A KEEPER. Landry is nowhere close to where he is defensively. Despite Carl's breakout game against the Twolves, if you noticed he couldn't even guard Craig Smith. He would've been completely schooled if he tried to guard Duncan yesterday. He has the strength, quick feet, athleticism, and work ethic to be a great defender but as of right now, Landry's defense is a definite weakness.
Sam is making $6.1 million. Chuck makes a lot less than that... $1.75 million this season, and $8 million over 4 years, starting next season. It would have to be a package of Hayes-plus. Hayes, Snyder and Francis would work, salary wise. That would give the Clips around $4.8 million in expiring contracts and Hayes on his bargain contract. They might consider that, actually. I'm sure it's been proposed before on the board. Heck, everything has.
We need Chuck. Until Scola can consistently (note that is consistently) defend the best post player on the other team, we need Chuck. He keeps th need for Yao to defend the best post player. Yao did a fine job on Duncan last night, but if it wasn't our home court and some calls go their way, we would have been in a deep hole last night. Chuck can hold the best of them down (case in point the Toronto Game and Mr Chris Bosh). Missing open layups don't help. I wouldn't trade him at this point in time. I would say though Chuck would be an extremely valuable backup PF for a number of teams with decent perimeter shooters and not much post play, Atlanta comes to mind straight away.
