A Canary In The Mine: An Open Plea To All CCF Rockets Fans ( Please Read )

In all seriousness, I agree. Yao-Only fans sometimes damper the mood, especially last night when a couple of people were enraged that Yao didn't score in the second half. As someone said, I don't think there is such thing as a Steve Francis Only Fan. I don't think there's a site called SteveFrancisManis. But I always defend Steve whenever people make erroneously assumptions about him, or abruptly declare a trade for someone with half the talent. I'm not all that crazy about Cat, but lately, I'm finding that I'm really grateful he's on the team.

The Yao-Only fans are a little too fanatical for me, sometimes. ANd HONESTLY think that not even YAO MING himself is a YAO-ONLY fan.

 

I hear what you're saying, and I understand why and I even used to agree with you, but my view on the whole situation has changed. I used to want to get rid of all the Yao only posters, I agree, they can be annoying at times, but the fact fo the matter is this site is for everyone who loves the rockets and/or their players. They are just as entitled to post here as everyone else.

If you dont like a post, just ignore it. I am guessing for every one of us that gets sick of the Yao posts, there are 10 Yao bandwagoners who love it. So we are outnumbered and in the spirit of community in which this site was developed, everyone should get an equal voice and be entitled to their own opinions, views, likes, dislikes, etc, etc.

I simply ignore most threads now and only go into the ones that interest me. I don't want to lose any of the senior members, and if it came down to something like that with you or other members, i would rather see them all go. The senior members are the foundation and the ones that post the most interesting stuff on this site, so I respect and appreciate that.


One thing I agree with you on is the bickering and personal attacks. There seems to be a lot of personal insults flying back and forth, which for the most part is just funny and entertaining, but at the same time, we all come here for rockets news and it really is a waste of time.

anyway, thats my 2 cents.

 

Very level-headed post. I completely agree. If someone posts something I disagree with, I give my .02 cents and move on. I don't start complaining.

I hate the posts that complain about other people or posts more than anything else.

 

MacBeth,

As always, well said & I share you sentiment. The issue you have raised also addressed a lot of my frustration on this board lately which contributed to my rant in the feedback forum lately.

It's great to see more people making a conscious effort trying to address the situation & make things happen before we are giving up. I'm with you 100%.

I'm possitive that good things will happen & there are already some signs showing that this place is going to improve.

You get a 5 star from me here.

Cheers!

 

While it is true that Francis/Mobey haven't given the fans a reason to cheer in the past...

I think that when "Yao-only" fans joined this BBS in the last 1 1/2 years, they noticed that Francis/Mobley were bashed more often than not, and that Yao was looked upon as the franchise "saviour." Maybe this gave them a "big head."

I think this gave the "Yao-only" fans a free-pass that it was ok to "hate" on Francis/Mobley regardless if they really understood the issues on the court (real or imaginary). Kinda like someone entering a conversation at mid point and going, "Yeah! What he said!" (Without really knowing what's going on).

Remember, "Yao-only" fans haven't been "Rocket fans" for very long. So, they don't know much about the history of the city or the Rockets. So, it's easy for them to just jump on board with the "Francis/Mobley" bashing without knowing the real reasons for the bashing in the first place.

One of the main reasons for the Francis/Mobley bashing was because of the exclusive use of ISO ball. At the same time, this doesn't mean that any sane Rocket fan would want ISO ball back, even if it meant that Yao was the one getting the ISOs. That's just as bad. We have talent on this team. Let's use them!

I want team ball regardless of who the "star" is.

 

MacBeth -- you just expressed the same frustrations I've had but couldn't put into words as eloquently as you.

People need to be more accepting and less defensive. But that's a fallacy of human nature. I'm not sure what can be done about that. But I pledge to be more openminded, and I hope others will too.

 

Well said! That sounds like a Chinese Proverb! Words of wisdom!

 

An extremely worthy attempt MacJAG that i suspect will fall on deaf ears, you could have at least gone half way and asked them to merge the Yao and Steve factions and present a united front in their hatred for Cuttino

Great post MacJAG

But remember it's the old talkback radio scenario here, people find it so watch easier to watch the game and focus on all the mistakes and errors and them bring all those criticisms to the board..... sometimes i wonder whether poster should actually try to watch for and count the number of times a player does a good thing, whether it be a basket, rebound, steal, assist, block, good defensive position, great screen, boxing out, a good cut or even just a simple pass....................... sometime i even wonder whether alot of poster here even like basketball besides there favourite rockets player???

 

Sam,

You need to to hear me talk on this issue one-on-one.
Then you might understand.

 

Yao Ming is way better than Macbeth! Trade Macbeth NOW!

 

You can't trade a Canadien liberal. It violates NAFTA.

 

I have been a Rockets fan ever since my Dad awoke me one night screaming and yelling! It was the night Sampson beat the lakers in 86. I was young back then and my love for the Rockets has grown each year. I dont hate Steve Francis or Cuttino but it just hurts so much when I watch them play without the brain. I just think sometimes they put themselves ahead of the team. I think they would rather want the stats instead of the win.

 

A bit melodramatic, lad. I really don't see what all the fuss is about. I think the board is funny, entertaining, and interesting. Conflict is part of sports. Disaggreements on personnel, on coaching, on performance are commonplace in most sports, why not here? I skip what I don't want to read.

Incivility is a reality in our society, it is only reflected here. There will be peace on this board when there is peace in the world. Don't hold your breath. Sort out the good from the bad, and talk Rockets. It may get better; it may get worse. It's all just for fun.

 

That wasn't directed at you, you're far more knowledgeable than most of the relentless bashers, and you actually have relented for the past few months. You aren't, and never were, IMO a Yao only fan.

....just a bulls only fan.

 

If you could somehow combine your basketball takes with pity pornstar reference, I'm pretty sure then you'd see the board take on the rosy hue of shared affection and appreciation.

 

People will express their opinions in different ways. I would to see diversity like you Macbeth and so many others.
I love reading the extremely knowledgeable posters here from whom I learn so much about basketball. It thrills me to come on the BBS and bonds us together as a community of Rocket Fans.
I honestly feel that the overwhelming number of members would love to see us win again, but we are getting frustrated because of the performances of the players. I'm sure that most people are unsure whether we will make it to the playoffs or not and this is boiling over as anger.
I would encourage Macbeth and everybody else to keep on posting on the board in these difficult times even though we can't change the outcome of anything but we can let people know of our dedication to the Houston Rockets.