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9% Congressional Approval Ratings - Worst Ever

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Jul 8, 2008.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Well, at least you are surrounded by like-minded individuals on the left.
     
  2. count_dough-ku

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    The Dems are heading up the worst Congress ever. In just 18 months, they've managed to help drive this country into the sh-tter. And they're about to be "rewarded" by the electorate with larger majorities in both houses along with possibly retaking the White House with a leftist candidate whose entire resume consists of 143 days in the U.S. Senate and being a Chicago-area community organizer.


    If this isn't an indictment on the incompetence of the GOP and their complete lack of leadership, I don't know what is. When they get their asses handed to them in November, they need to clean house.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    please detail some of these accomplishments which have made it "the worst congress ever"

    Let me guess - your support for this is going to be not unlike your brilliant defense of your claim that "Global warming is a scam!" from last month - i can't wait for the funny to start.
     
  4. count_dough-ku

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    They have no accomplishments. Oh, I'm sorry. They raised the minimum wage. Congrats.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    Translated this means "I can't be bothered to look up if my claim is verifiable because I don't really care" - i'll save you the trouble and say it's not.
     
  6. count_dough-ku

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    Ok, Sam. Since you're so enlightened. List their accomplishments. Tell me what they've done on illegal immigration, energy prices, Iraq, the economy, implimenting the 9/11 commission's recommendations, and earmarks. You know, all those issues they ran on.

    Well, I take that back. They did try to do something on illegal immigration behind closed doors with the amnesty bill and it's partly why they have single digit approval ratings.
     
  7. mc mark

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    Single digit approval? Not exactly

    Matt Drudge blew the ram’s horn early Tuesday morning: “Congressional Approval Rating Falls to Single Digits for First Time Ever.” Within minutes, the conservative group Freedom’s Watch was blasting the news out to reporters. And by afternoon, Rep. Adam Putnam of Florida — the No. 3 Republican in the House — had welded it into a cudgel with which to beat the Democrats.

    “A new national survey out today puts congressional approval in the single digits, at 9 percent,” Putnam told reporters gathered for a pen-and-paper session. “At the rate we are going now, gas prices and congressional approval should cross paths any day now.”

    The only catch: The news wasn’t exactly the news.

    Congressional approval ratings are low and getting lower, but the Rasmussen Reports poll numbers that had Drudge breaking, Freedom’s Watch blasting and Putnam bludgeoning Tuesday weren’t really congressional approval ratings, even if Rasmussen’s own headline described them as such.

    Rasmussen didn’t ask respondents whether they approved or disapproved of Congress; it asked respondents to rank Congress’ job performance as excellent, good, fair or poor.

    Just 2 percent rated the performance as excellent, and 7 percent rated it as good.

    Add those up, and you get 9 percent.

    But 36 percent of Rasmussen’s respondents said they consider Congress’ job performance to be fair. Is that approval or disapproval?

    the rest of the story
     
  8. SamFisher

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    I was trying to spare you the embarrassment, but you asked for it - this data is just from January, I'm sure the disparity is greater now.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/opinion/19mann.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
     
  9. RocketMan Tex

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    Can you say....PWNED?

    :D
     
  10. count_dough-ku

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    And what exactly are these "new public laws" that they've passed? What proposals on their agenda were successfully enacted? That was an awfully vague article by the NY Times(and thanks for the "impartial" news source, BTW). All I see are a bunch of numerical stats that I'd expect to find in the GARM.

    And "aiming lower in their specific legislative promises" might help them meet their lowered expectations, but it doesn't have any positive impact on any of the issues I mentioned above.

    I won't disagree that Congress "reasserted itself as a rightful check on the executive branch", but what exactly have all these oversight hearings accomplished? Has Bush changed anything about his Iraq policy?
     
  11. SamFisher

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    I knew - I TOTALLY knew that the first thing you would do would be to attack the Times. The data is all public record. If you think it is false - please go to Thomas.gov and disprove it.

    Do you need me to explain the numbers to you? They're pretty clear - what part of "measures passed" do you not get?
     
  12. count_dough-ku

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    148 substantive measures passed by the House. Ok, like what?
     
  13. rhadamanthus

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    I love this kind of ownage. Brightens my day.
     
  14. RocketRaccoon

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    An outstanding question to ask.

    They talk differently, but act the same.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Congress will pick up when they get that veto machine out of the white house.

    DD
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    uhh..he actually hasn't vetoed that many bills. I actually think he has vetoed less than most presidents over the past 50+ years.

    I know it's still popular to blame everything on Bush, but i don't think you can blame crappy bills and limpdicked congress on him
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Uh - that's because he was rubber stamping GOP bills for 6 out of 7 years. His use of it has increased dramatically since 2007.
     
  18. kokopuffs

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    sorry sam, but that's the weakest supporting evidence for an argument i've ever seen next to "carbon dating is wrong! evolution is therefore bunk"

    you fail.
     
  19. weslinder

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes#George_W._Bush

    Bush has vetoed a total of 10 bills (9 this session), the least of any full-term President since Lincoln.

    My hero: Grover Cleveland, and his 584 vetoes in his non-contiguous terms.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't think GW Bush has had to veto many bills since the Senate Republicans have threatened several fillibusters to stop legislation. If I recall right they have used the fillibuster threat more this Congress than the Democrats had in the previous Congress.
     

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