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[9.12.09] Taxpayer March on D.C

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Sep 12, 2009.

  1. Refman

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    You make some good points here. I don't agree with all of them, but frankly, am too damned tired to discuss them in detail.

    An interesting thought though is that the things in your post that are true and could be cut have been a problem for decades. Why is that only now do we hear anything other than the sounds of crickets chirping?

    Another interesting thought. The President has very little to do with any of this other than the military installations. The Congress sets the budget. From 1994 through 2006, both houses of Congress were run by Republicans. Why was nothing done over 12 years (8 of those with a Republican President)?

    If it were true before and nothing was said about it, it leads me to wonder whether the protests have more to do with who is in office rather than the work that is being asked for.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    It's probably clear to many of us that this crowd is eerily similar to the Palin/McCain rally crowd during the 2008 election.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    loltacular.

    I love this. What's more plausible - a vast liberal media conspiracy, or that a ****load of wingnut r****ds marched around the capitol?
     
  4. basso

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    Really Basso? You are so transparent.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    Or that a bunch of people marched, some are intelligent dissenters, some are just there to be there, and some are wingnut jerks. Guess which ones make for more entertaining television?
     
  7. aghast

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    I can't decide which possibility is more hilarious: that you went in and photoshopped "two million" over the "a [one] million," ignoring all the press accounts which put the actual number at roughly 1.94 million [2,000,000 - 60,000] to .94 million [1,000,000 - 60,000] lower, or that the artist himself was too lazy to redraw one freaking text bubble before it went to press.

    Whichever is true, the supposed punchline is an unintentional anti-joke. Like those the artist imagines are influenced by his conservative-messaging-masquerading-as-daily-funnies schtick, it's a phantom audience, perhaps a phantom audience also "<s>A</s> 2 million! strong."

    [I just checked the website; it's the artist's laziness.]

    Still, though, it's better than Cathy.
     
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  8. rhadamanthus

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    I'd wager the majority are from the land of wingnuttia (courtesy: gifford1967). Why? Because most "intelligent dissenters" would not want to be associated with such a group of nitwits (publically, anyhow). Furthermore, a certain amount of rancor (not necessarily associated with intelligence) is required when the motive is so highly hypocritical and unintelligible.
     
  9. justtxyank

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    Fair point. I really have no clue how many fall into what group. I also don't care. They accomplish nothing.
     
  10. Oski2005

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  11. rimrocker

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    Great find basso! This will surely shut those Liberals up as the Tea Partying Party shows the big tent!

    (So, which one is that? Alan Keyes or J. C. Watts?)
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Thumbs;

    I'm curious what your thoughts are in regard to these pictures from other protests?
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  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    When did facts become so wholly irrelevant to so many people?
     
  14. mc mark

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    when a black man became president
     
  15. basso

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    November 7, 2000.
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    For once I agree with our resident basshole. When Bush was elected, the facts developed a clear liberal bias and the right wing seems to have agreed at that point to simply ignore facts in place of mindlessly droned talking points.
     
  17. Depressio

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    I have no party affiliation. Hell, I haven't even voted (and I'm 26). My parents have no party affiliation (my Dad just votes libertarian because he they send him stuff, and my Mom voted for Clinton, then Bush, and now Obama so she varies), so I haven't been influenced by any adult's rhetoric to lean one way or the other, either.

    Yet, as I watched the Bush administration through college and early career, and as I watch the Obama administration now, I have come to several observations:

    (1) Bush f**ked everything up. We had a surplus with Clinton, and went deep into debt and a recession under Bush. I would've voted for Bush if I could've back in 2000, too. Honestly, I was leaning towards him in '04, too.

    (2) The economy is recovering. Most people are declaring the recession as over and the stock market is improving. It's only a matter of time before the jobs start materializing again, it would seem.

    (3) Healthcare has a serious problem with it. I was fortunate to have good coverage when I had an appendectomy a year ago, but looking at the bills, I can't imagine what it would be like if I didn't have it. I've heard horror stories about the cost of personal coverage as well, not through your employer. The status quo will not get it done any longer.

    (4) Government waste is nothing new. It's been around, probably, for centuries. With every year, the magnitude of this waste gets larger and larger, it seems.

    Given the above, I've rendered a few non-partisan opinions about this "tea party march" or whatever:

    (1) People are protesting something that has been happening for a long time: government waste. It is amusing to me that only now it is a problem; apparently, trying to improve our broken healthcare system is a waste of money.

    (2) Obama's plan has holes in it (like where the money is going to come from), but I like it in principle -- competition in the market is unbelievably important. Currently, there is not enough. There is a serious problem, and something MUST be done. Sitting on our hands is not an option.

    (3) People are stupid. Of course, I have thought this for a very long time, but some folks are so ridiculously delusional that they actually manage to have other people believe their delusions. A great example would be the belief that Obama is a terrorist. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of people that believed this are over 1 million. Another would be parents pulling their kids out of school (or threatening) to avoid having them hear the president tell them school is important.

    Democrat, Republican... I don't really give a crap. Something needs to be done, and this "march" just looks like a bunch of people wasting everyone's time with their own delusions of what MIGHT happen. I hate people who waste time.
     
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  18. rimrocker

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    Wrong again.

    It was December 12, 2000.

    (But I don't think we'd agree on who was disregarding the facts even though the facts prove I would be right.)
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    "Well, it just goes to show you... and it'll show you once again..." that basso is literally wrong about every single thing he posts here.

    Why not 5 million, basso? Why not 10? I mean, as long as you're making up your own numbers, why not shoot a little higher? Why not 25 million?
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    The quote above is for Rashmon. Name that Zappa and complete the quote and you too can be the proud owner of some shiny new rep points.
     

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