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9-11 commission, preliminary findings

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Mar 23, 2004.

  1. Deckard

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    So the way Bush and Cheney's testimony is being handled doesn't bother you in the least? You don't think the American people should know what that testimony is? Even if parts of it are censored for "national security reasons"?
     
  2. mc mark

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    No

    The commission's work was compromised when they had to fight the White House tooth and nail to get anyone to cooperate.

    I also think (and this is just my opinion) the RNC wants people to believe that the commission has been compromised so as to dismiss any conclusions they come to.

    Hence Hastert and company’s attacks on the commission members.
     
  3. basso

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    why is it politics is only ever played by republicans while practitioners of the same tactics are lauded as paragons of virtue when they're of the left? is this not akin to laker/jazz fans calling Malone a "warrior" when we all know he's one of the dirtiest players to ever disgrace the game?
     
  4. rimrocker

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    Strange how the Repubs keep saying the Commission should be above politics yet keep doing everything possible to make it about politics. If you want an impartial accounting, then have a stenographer. If you want to maewk it political, then don't have one and let's all argue about what was said.

    By the way, Dick won't be the only crutch in the room...

    "Gonzales is expected to be at Thursday's session, along with perhaps another member of the counsel's office and other White House officials, McClellan said."
     
  5. basso

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    having your lawyer present is considered a crutch? what alternative 5th amendment universe do you inhabit?
     
  6. mc mark

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    Jr is not on trial last I checked (but you never know in the future :)) this is just a question and answer thing. Why does he need a lawyer?
     
  7. Woofer

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    That's the problem with lying, you have to coordinate your comments with all the other liars.
     
  8. mc mark

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    Where in the world is Sibel Edmonds?

    And why is Ashcroft bringing a law suit barring her 911 testimony to become public?

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    DOJ Asked FBI Translator To Change Pre 9-11 Intercepts

    Tom Flocco | March 24 2004


    FBI translator, Sibel Edmonds, was offered a substantial raise and a full time job in order to not go public that she had been asked by the Department of Justice (DOJ) to retranslate and adjust the translations of [terrorist] subject intercepts that had been received before September 11, 2001 by the FBI and CIA.

    Edmonds, a ten year U.S. citizen who has passed a polygraph examination, speaks fluent Farsi and Turkish and had been working part time with the FBI for six months-- commencing in December, 2001.

    In a 50 reporter scrum in front of some 12 news cameras, Edmonds said "Attorney General John Ashcroft told me 'he was invoking State Secret Privilage and National Security' when I told the FBI I wanted to go public with what I had translated from the pre 9-11 intercepts".

    "I appeared once on CBS 60 Minutes but I have been silenced by Mr. Ashcroft, the FBI follows me, and I was threatened with jail in 2002 if I went public." Edmonds told tomflocco.com.

    When we asked her if it was really true that she had been bribed by the FBI and DOJ, Edmonds said "You can interpret it as that."

    This writer personally asked Edmonds where the term "State Secret Privilage" was derived. "The term came from an October 18, 2002 DOJ memo to me from DOJ spokesman Barbara Comstock," said Edmonds.

    Edmonds said "My translations of the pre 9-11 intercepts included [terrorist] money laundering, detailed and date specific information enough to alert the American people, and other issues dating back to 1999 which I won't go into right now."

    Incredibly, Edmonds said "The senate Judiciary Committee, and the 911 Commission have heard me testify for lengthy periods of time time (3 hours) about very specific plots, dates, airplanes used as weopons, and specific idividuals and activities."

    This explosive information has been kept under wraps by the White House, CIA, FBI, and DOJ since Edmond's 60 Minutes interview segment.

    The former FBI translator told tomflocco.com that "translators before me had ongoing personal relationships with the subjects or targets of the FBI and DOJ pre 9-11 investigations linked to intercepts and other intelligence in June - July - August, just prior to the attacks."

    "I also became aware of a [terrorist] ciminal investigation going on since 1998," said Edmonds.

    Patty Casazza, one of the 9-11 "Jersey Girls," said "Sibel Edmonds told me that color coding terrorist threat alerts for the American people is reflective of the intercept translations received." Casazza and Edmonds gave no indication as to whether FBI translators had doctored or adjusted Homeland Security terrorist threat alerts for political reasons.

    "This whole situation is outrageous and I am going public," said Edmonds, adding "I am currently being advised by counsel. Thank you."

    9-11 family member, Jersey Girl, Kristen Breitweiser, arranged to have Ms. Edmonds address the gathered media right after the Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified.

    http://www.propagandamatrix.com/240304dojasked.html
     
  9. No Worries

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    4 more years of Ashcroft!!!
     

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