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9/11 and Controversy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. across110thstreet

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    no clue what song you are talking about. nor do I see any link between Lady Gaga, 9/11, and/or excise taxes.

    what about all the people that DID have a relation to someone that died that day? for them, life does NOT go on. for them, they had to receive the news that their family members were murdered by terrorists.

    some of them received the news via phone calls in the air. the reports from every airline was the same. hijackers were hijacking planes with rigged equipment and box cutters.

    why is that so hard to believe? there is surveillance footage and documented reports of the terrorists last days in the USA.

    more irresponsible posting by ToyCen. last thread you posted this

    you aren't even posting links or blogs anymore, ToyCen, just spouting off random contradictions that you remembered reading or hearing. but now your theories are even contradicting each other!
     
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  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    So people who don't agree with you completely = braindead.

    People who have a different set of analytical skills and a penchant for logic = braindead.

    I know I'm pissing into the wind here, but please read what you're writing.

    I'm a smart, open-minded person who thought about this, read a lot about it, and even saw an incredible talk by a brilliant physicist about the scientific principles involved. At the end of the day, I disagree with your point of view but have no interest in changing your mind.

    The point of my post is that, to attract anyone to your point of view, calling them "braindead" is a bad place to start, and you might want to take a step back. Conspiracies are very, very appealing -- I get that -- and it's even more sexy to think you're smarter than everyone and you've beat the system and that everyone else is just a dumb zombie (i.e. someone even brought up the nerd-fantasy of The Matrix, which is entirely appropriate for the pathology on display.)

    That doesn't mean it fits an objective analysis though. It means you have embraced a hobby, and more power to you folks. Seems more healthy to me to just admit it's a hobby and that you're maybe cherry-picking pieces of the story to fit your narrative, but maybe it's more fun to pretend everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. Anyway, enjoy.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    That's only because you're not smart enough to see the connections!
    :p ;)
     
  4. Pull_Up_3

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    And like ive said as well i have 0 interest in changing your mind or anyone elses for that matter im not a conspiracy nut and research and try to source everything to make people beleivers.

    Im only here to give my opinion some will agree with me some wont im not gonna beat myself up about it if you dont agree, its your opinion.

    Im also sure everyone who doesnt agree with me thinks im an idiot as well so it goes both ways. This topic is worthless to talk about because theres 2 different sides one side is terrorist were responsible, the other was the govt was somehow involved. Both sides will bump heads and argue but at the end no one will be convinced otherwise to what they beleive.
     
  5. ryan17wagner

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    Bin Laden wasn't behind 9/11. Even the FBI knows that not to even put 9/11 down on why he's wanted:

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
     
  6. BEAT LA

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    there are the people who know everything - they denounce it, and know how to handle it if anything gets serious

    then there are the idiots - they believe anything they see or read on tv

    and finally there are the people who know some or all of the truth - they try to teach the many who are clueless

    in the end, I'm going to continue to do what I do best, play the second one.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Where are you getting your info from? What makes the info you get more truthful that what people see or read on TV?
     
  8. slcrocket

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    Only when you phrase things idiotically. :)
     
  9. Rashmon

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    I'm pretty sure Kevin Bacon is involved in some way.
     
  10. across110thstreet

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to B-Bob again.
     
  11. MrRoboto

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    The conspiracy theories surrounding 911 show what happens when you approach a puzzle from an emotional perspective instead of an objective analytical review of the facts.

    I support the ability to question and the right of the public to have an open government. There will always be those who will retain the same emotionality about an issue regardless of the facts.
     
  12. CheezeyBoy22

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    IMO, there are a lot of unanswered questions reguarding 9/11. I seen/read several stories how there's controvsersy around what took place during 9/11 and how there's been nothing but cover ups around it.

    One thing I think we can agree upon is there were a lot of human life that was lost that day. Whether it was an inside job or not, those were terrorist attacks. So if it was done by the Government, then they are terrorists.Either way, let's not forget all the people that died that day. It was a sad day in History for America and I hope all the victim's families are doing well.
     
  13. BEAT LA

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    Educational text. Not everyone has access to it, so I posted that video to make sure everyone could get the gist of it.

    http://www.brainmass.com/homework-help/business/management/297054

    All of the documents regarding the $11,000,000,000.00 accounting fraud to inflate WordCom's earnings and boost the company's stock price collapsed in six seconds along with many other fraudulent business practices.

    Skip to the final minute of the video.

    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/iEuJimaumW4&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/iEuJimaumW4&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
     
  14. Red Chocolate

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    just study history and follow the money trail. Those with the most to gain tell the biggest lies.
     
  15. durvasa

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    In this case, there is little to gain and much to lose in carrying out such a conspiracy.
     
  16. Mr. Brightside

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    I'm laughing at the irony of this post. You claim that "we have no idea" what happened on that plane, and then you are somehow certain of what happened on the very next line of your post.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    I think the American people have lost a large amount of Faith in their Government.
    People simply do not beleive the government is truthful, honest and has their best interest at heart.

    When it is run by two parties. . .each of which constantly telling you the others is nothing more than a bunch of whoring money grubbing liars. After a while people start to beleive that.

    so . . .since you beleive the people IN the government are a bunch of liars
    it is not that big a stretch to beleive the government lies to you . . .

    Add to the that
    NEWS is entertainment and opinion building more than informative these days.
    You watch and feel them trying to persuade you more than inform you.

    SO
    You have a information vacuum
    It must be filled. Unfortunately when someone appeals
    to your preconceived notions with a strong logic that confirms it
    it is easy to beleive.

    Ask a bunch of Americans
    Would Dick Cheney kill 3000 Americans if he thought it was for THE GREATER GOOD?? I think alot would say yes. He has been routinely characterize as a person of ruthlessness and morally questionable.
    IS HE?? I cannot say for sure. . . but that is his public face and people will
    tend to beleive negative about him . . . more than good.

    DISCLAIMER: I am not Dick Cheney fan or apologist. IT was just an example.

    Rocket River
    it is all about the SPIN and the Public Image
    more than anything
     

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