8 year old accidently shoots self with Uzi at Gun fair.

Yea, in semi-auto...It's perfectly legal and great for defense. Hunting...O yea, do a search ...In fact while you are at it...Look up other issue related deaths that we don't need...Obesity deaths (fast food), smoking related deaths per year, alcohol related deaths per year, vehicle-related deaths due to speed....Many other issues of things "we don't need"....

Chop-chop?

 

The kid could have been walking outside and be hit by a car. Accidents happen it is not time to overreact.

 

When people compare an accidental shooting with a car accident, a part of my brain dies.

How is a car equivalent (both in function and purpose) to a gun, especially a gun not designed to kill animals?

 

I don't understand points of your logic:

Why is it the governments responsibility to keep idiots from killed themselves and their offspring?

Why is the litmus test for if guns being legal, rest on your opinion of if they would make a good hunting weapon?

You claim other people ignore dangers of guns only to talk about other dangers. With guns being so low on the list of things that kill kids, why are you not protesting the other factors as hard as you are guns?

 

Because when so many more die in a car accident than a firearms accident it is obvious that more good can be done by regulating car safety and design than can be gained from regulating guns.

 

Thanks for answering ONE of the questions. How about the other two.


Why is the litmus test for if guns being legal, rest on your opinion of if they would make a good hunting weapon?

You claim other people ignore dangers of guns only to talk about other dangers. With guns being so low on the list of things that kill kids, why are you not protesting the other factors as hard as you are guns?

You should also consider it is much easier to add automobile or pool safety regulation than gun regulation, why do you push so hard for gun regulation?

 

If people died at all regularly from machine guns you might have a point. But since people die more often by choking on the toys in happy meals, your focus is misplaced on an emotional reaction. You view machine guns as scary and dangerous, damn the facts! They must be banned!

 

Yes, but this statement requires that you ignore the good things cars do, on a ginormous scale, every day.

 

because you can do so much for public safety and the safety of kids by regulating for instance:

Making cars more safe for people under 4'9" , regulating toy imports more closely, making it a 2nd degree murder charge for any child killed by their parents drugs (the way it is if they are killed by their parents guns)

All effort could be used for this and be extremely successful, where if you try to regulate guns it will hit much protest and you will get nothing done.

 

not really.

regulating cars can be much more helpful. I am not saying banning cars, just as DD is not saying to ban guns.

 

So we can't touch gun laws until the rest of society is Nerf-ed?

 

The difference is that gun deaths aren't self inflicted (other than in suicide). Nobody shoves a cheeseburger down your throat repeatedly until you die. Nobody makes you smoke or get boozed up every night.

 

Nobody but me dies (40 years later) when I eat too much.

Second hand smoke takes YEARS of constant exposure to have an effect.

A gun can kill a random person in an instant. There are all kinds of guns that are simply unnecessary in society. You want to hunt, use a rifle. You need home protection, get a hand gun. No one but the police and the military need anything beyond that. If it were up to me, NO ONE in this country would be allowed to have a gun unless they were in the military, police, or a state run militia.

 

I don't own guns but fully believe in your right to own them. That said there should be manditory safety training and licensing before you own a gun. This issue in this thread is more an issue of bad parenting than gun rights. What parent is foolish enough to let ther 8 year old kid handle an uzi.

Mike K

 

Exactly.. that kid had no business holding ANY type of firearm let alone shooting one!! I believe everyone has a right to own them but there should be more restrictions/regulations. Remember Virginia Tech?

 

Uh, yes, it does require that you treat the two things as equals in their positive contributions to society. Which is pretty much straight bunk.