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8 US solders charged in death of fellow GI

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by agslai, Dec 21, 2011.

  1. ubigred

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    I wonder who the suspects are? Hmmm
     
  2. Ender120

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    What does this post even mean?
     
  3. Surfguy

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    Any time a regular civilian comments on stuff like this...you always get the military guys coming at you saying "what do you know; you haven't served". So, i will refrain from making an argument one way or another as I guess only military guys really who have been through it have an opinion here. I will just say it doesn't seem right that people sign up and are supposed to be on the same side would do this to a fellow service member but the fact is it happens and, apparently, that's just the way it is even if there is a zero tolerance policy. In a combat situation, the person you were picking on and doing stuff to may be the guy that saves your life. That is the type of unspoken comradery I would expect between service members. But, that is not reality. The reality is all the pettiness of civilian life can and does carry over into the military. I would hope these incidents are few and far between. I would like to keep the impression that most military members serve proudly and don't resort to stupid stuff like this. They may have thought it was harmless fun but, obviously, a guy shot himself so it was anything but.
     
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  4. dback816

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    They'll probably get off easy, maybe 6 month community service

    Shrug
     
  5. VanityHalfBlack

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    Someone should give the 8 suspect names to 4chan, see what they can do to it...
     
  6. Kojirou

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    Care to explain why and how I'm going to be a crazy monster, oh wise one?
     
  7. Child_Plz

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    I agree with you that the majority of our armed forces are unfairly stereotyped by this, but even I have came to the conclusion that we have a percentage of the military who are morally corrupt and is being swept under the rug by the military brass for PR reasons.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    i thought any nation wouldn't want ANY other nation's military on their soil?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    opps read that wrong.... but a military base near any city is not a good think. No matter what country it is.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    ya no one in the military ever serves with honor. And every civilian in the U.S. NEVER commits any crimes.
     
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    Agreed.

    This is disgraceful but not shocking.
     
  13. Fyreball

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    Are you telling me that this kind of behavior ISN'T prevalent in today's military? I'm not generalizing and saying every soldier in the US Army is a scumbag, nor am I saying that it's the NORM....but you can't possibly tell me that the military has created a culture of tolerance and acceptance amongst the ranks overseas. Stop letting the sheer emotional aspect of your patriotic beliefs (and trust me, I'm as patriotic as the next guy), and look at the facts. Racism IS very much a part of the military culture, and it is NOT getting better. Events like this only further cement that truth. I'm not badmouthing the service men and women who protect our rights each and everyday.....but being a soldier in the US Army does not automatically make you immune to the moral and ethical obligations men and women should have towards each other.
     
  14. VanityHalfBlack

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    Amen brother....
     
  15. tmoney1101

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    you want the truth?
     
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  17. Bandwagoner

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    Racism is not tolerated. Minorities are over represented statistically in the military. Reporting it results in punishment for the offenders. The military takes racism extremely serious, any negative racial comments and especially slurs will get you instantly NJP'd.


    Being in the military does not make you immune but it does make sure you are in a controlled environment with rules and consequences that could not possibly exist in civilian life.


    I am telling you that statistically this happens much less frequently in the military compared to the civilian world. I am telling you that when any racial discrimination happens it is taken of much more swiftly and severely than in civilian life, EEOC is a freaking joke. I am telling you the generalizations about the professionalism of our military are dead wrong.
     
  18. CHI

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    I'm Chinese and was in the Navy from 2000-2004. Racism is alive and well in the military... from all levels.

     
  19. CHI

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    I have heard the words "Chinaman" and "Gook" used ALL THE TIME in everyday conversation, by my shipmates, while I was in the Navy. I have NEVER heard it once used by a co-worker in civilian life.
     
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  20. Bandwagoner

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    How many times did you send them to captains mast CHI? Which supervisor heard about the problem and what was their rank?
     

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