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[7seconds or mess] Analysis of faulty entry passes to Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bugerking3, May 8, 2009.

  1. allenz

    allenz Member

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    this is PLAYOFFS
    if not keep looking for our big fella
    we LOSE
    we'll see.

    Brainless AARON BROOKS ist the biggest problem of this team.
    He CAN DO his job(hard as we know,but sure he can)
    BUT
    He DO NOT want to
    this is the PROBLEM
     
  2. bigboi

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    All of those players mentioned can catch a lob or can attack the pass and catch it and do not get stripped by the offside defender, sorry bad comparisons.
     
  3. michecon

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    What does "he has gotten it down low as well" mean? Yao Ming has gotten it down low as well.

    There isn't much logic in arguing this any more.

    I'll end it with this: either you do not commit to your faulty big man, or you find someone who can pass him the ball, point guard or not.
     
  4. BucMan55

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    You missed again. The list was all the players save a select few(and tall hmm) wings that have tried and had difficulties with getting the entry pass to Yao.
     
  5. real_egal

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    What 8 years? What the heck are you talking about?

    In Rudy's year, Yao was a rookie, who was involved more and more in offense as he was more used to NBA. You got media and fans saying can we get Yao more touches?

    In JVG's year, the offense was resolving around TMac and Yao, sometimes media and fans claiming that we should go through Yao more, instead of jacking up 3s with a hand in face and early in shot clock?

    THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR ONLY, in fact, after the trade, we are talking about our starting point guard - whether he CAN pass the ball to Yao, whether he WANTS to pass the ball to Yao, whether he HAS the ability to make decision as floor general.

    Since when were we struggling so hard to get Yao the ball? For Steve and Mobley, JVG talked about WILLINGNESS to pass. FOR AB, we are talking about CAPABILITY. I thought you know the difference, but obviously I am so wrong here.

    BTW, your explanation of worrying about Yao's turnover therefore no pass from AB was so brilliant. If I have a senior engineer and a junior engineer working for me. The junior engineer kept talking about me how the senior guy isn't perfect, therefore he's so worried to work with him, and he decided to do everything on his own. I will tell him - get the F out of my group.
     
  6. krockets

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    For whatever picture you have on Juwan, I have more pictures seeing coaching yelling on their players for not double and triple teaming Yao... And are you trying to argue the point that average players usually receive the same kind of defense as franchise player like Yao?

    Also, you are really just arguing for the sake arguing here.. I would ignore your posts if you keep doing this...
     
  7. michecon

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    It's pointless to reseaon with him anymore. He put Battier in the same sentence of indecisiveness of AB as if they have the same problem. He put in all those names to shift focus, as if they all have the same problem. There's just one goal for him.
     
  8. leebigez

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    Carl freaking Landry was making entry passes to artest on the blks from the same side free throw line. Ron got low and wide and sealed ariza. Now if ron can seal a taller wiry guy like ariza whom he outweighs by 40lbs or so with a bad angle, what does that tell u about making a target.?

    Dream played wh eldridge recasner and a scrub named e-mail and he got the ball. I bet if u or any other person were to check the mssg board of other teams with big men, u wouldn't see nearly the same amout of stupid ass repetitive threads about getting their big guy the ball in the post. Im not saying its all yao's fault, im just saying match the common denominators.
     
  9. banky

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    nothing new here. just video evidence that Brooks is a dumbass.

    I dunno how many times I see Yao yelling for the got damn ball in the paint and Brooks ignores him.

    Get a better PG who can get Yao the ball in the paint.
     
  10. michecon

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    Artest is certainly stronger than Ariza. In fact, Artest is stronger than most people guarding him. What's the point in comparing him getting the ball again? I certainly don't see the same defense played on Artest, I don't even see Rockets force the Artest posting up deep play so the opponent have to resort to that type of defense.

    Again, the relevant point is, when defense deny Ron the Deep position to post up, he just receive it further out. Pull up the game tape.
     
  11. Man

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    brooks missed a perfect opportunity when yao rolled to the basket off a pick...brooks passed it to the wing player instead.. haha

    lacking court vision, yes?

    i do think that brooks is learning a lot from the playoff experience, and he'll continue to improve. i think adelman will help him get better.
     
  12. WeMissDekeMan

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    Brooks lacks everything. He's a poor man's Eddie House at best. I'll take about any PG in the league over him.

    AB doesn't even hesitate when he passes it to Artest in the post, but he always does with Yao and he ends up jacking up a 3 pointer in the end anyways.

    Really. I am seriously not joking. I'd rather have Anthony Carter that this piece of garbage. Aaron Brooks lacks everything a PG does.

    Aaron Brooks is a player with Allen Iverson's body inside a Luther Head mindset with a skill level of an NBA D-League PG. He's garbage.

    I don't understand why Lowry hasn't started yet and I don't understand why Brooks plays more than Lowry at all.
     
  13. ClutchCity3

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    It's all start with AB :mad: ....what was he doing!!..dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble and turn it over... :eek:
     
  14. tiger0330

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    What does this mean???
     
  15. Arvid

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    Maybe because Brooks shoots better? Lowry fg% has been abysmal in this series.
     
  16. WeMissDekeMan

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    He's pretty much saying Hakeem always got the ball, probably meant he was mobile and athletic. He's a Yao-hater from what I see and he worships Superman a lot.

    Give Yao, Kenny Smith and Sam Cassell and give him the 90s rules in the post and Yao would be fine. Because he would work on his lob catches.
     
  17. leebigez

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    michecon, this what i'm saying, even though yao is the biggest guy in the nba, its very difficult to get him the ball. He doesn't provide a good target and because of the inability to pick his feet off the floor and reset to get the ball. That doesn't mean he's always at fault or that brooks is right. Then when he gets the ball, he needs to be aggressive and decisive. After all the trouble getting the ball under the pressure of the shot, he needs tomake a play. That's why I think he's better as a play finisher. Let him move around a little either via high post for pick and pop or get someone else open. As I've always said, there are 30+ offensive rebounds therefore for the taking, he can get some points like that. I game 6, we saw yao run the floor and get great quick position. There is more than 1 way to skin a cat, but posters seem to think yao has to get the ball in the post all the time. You will notice when the rockets look for yao when the other team is making him work or denying, the offense goes into the trash can.
     
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  18. WeMissDekeMan

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    I'd rather have a guy who is a legit PG, actually has a brain, plays defense, and knows how to run an offense than a guy who has no brain, is a chucker, plays no defense and has no clue how to run an offense.

    But I guess FG%'s tell all. :rolleyes:

    I mean AB only shot 40% in the regular season and Lowry shot 47%. I mean..honestly Brooks is so much better than Lowry. :rolleyes:
     
  19. BucMan55

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    In Game 6 he didnt go sit down on the low block and expect the ball like he was entitled. He worked, he went from side to side, he used the defenders momentum against him. Heck, he was wide open for a dunk on a PNR!!!


    I fully expect to see more movement from the 4 other players without the ball in this game and the rest of the series. In games 1 and 2 he didnt do much of the shifting sides. That should be plan B every play. Sometimes though he comes out to set the pick, which would be a good thing if there was a threat of him doing something after the pick, be it pop or roll.
     
  20. BucMan55

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    But this aint the regular season. Its the play-offs. Lowry's shooting has been his worst aspect this postseason.
     

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