[7seconds or mess] Analysis of faulty entry passes to Yao

i agree that yao has some limitations but i would rather the rockets get a turnover from yao not catching the lob pass than artest or brooks going 1 on 4.

from game 2, the issue was not yao dropping passes but more so the ball not getting to him.

 

Actually there were a couple of Yao turnovers. Though one was him making a poor pass out of the post.


And I would rather get a shot up than a turnover. At least the shot might go in. And Brooks/Artest not making that pass does not automatically mean a turnover. Better movement from the players without the ball will help reduce those turnovers. Its easier to trap and play help defense when you know where your man will be standing when he does not have the ball.

 

Currently, all these arguments are meaningless. It's impossible for the rockets to change their rotation in this playoffs. We have to accept what the rockets have.

Of course, I think Morey and Adelman will adjust them roster this summer on the basis of the problems that have shown in this playoffs.

 

I get where you're coming from. But I think you've let your annoyance w/ those posters (totally understandable...I automatically avoid thread titles alluding to this) detract you from being objective here.

This was video from a 3rd party observer and I thought he brought some valid points. There's plenty of other threads where I've voiced my annoyance w/ Yao struggling w/ the front, etc and where the topic is relevant. This seemed to be the one thread where there could be some reasonable discussion on AB's passing.

EDIT: I guess this thread has shown people will pick their sides and ignore the discussion no matter what the case is. Oh well, I thought this thread had a chance, I tried.

 

Did you forget the 22 game winning streak last year? I mean now Tmac is down and out because his injuries. But he was really brilliant and a great player all those years as a Houston Rocket. We shouldn't dismiss what he has done here. Even though he never got us out of first round, but we shouldn't blame it all on him because various other factors were involved. I am a big Yao and that is the reason I joined this board. But saying that he is "only good at getting Yao the ball" is just not true.

 

The problem with our PGs and some of the players on this team. They panic too much with they passing.

 

yao really needs to confront brooks, who is the mostly at fault in the video, during the game, NOT after. brooks needs to know he wont get those easy layups like in game 1, and he should stop driving in recklessly.

 

you're saying you would rather give the Lakers the ball instead of putting up a shot and hope it goes in?

how many TO's do we need by passing it to Yao when he's fronted before we say "hmm maybe this isnt a great idea?"

i would rather yao get 2 touches a game if it means less turnovers and more good looks at the basket.

 

we would not be discussing this if we had a veteran pg

bring on andre miller!!!

btw brooks sucks...trade him while his value is high

 

You should give up with your r****ded posting. Brooks is more a passing guard then a PG. Lowry is the best passing PG that we have but he's not a good with his shots. Houston for the last couple of years have pretty mediocre PG. From PG who dribble dribble and PG with no IQ. Rafer never had problem passing it to Yao. And Artest is NOT a good passer.

 

did u even watch the video???

if u did do u not realise none of them were good shots??? they were only bad because WE DID NOT GO THROUGH YAO PROPERLY!!!

yeah its easy to say man we will get a TO from Yao so lets just shoot and there is a chance that it will go in(yeah 2 percent chance)...instead of going through the focal point of our offense.

if u call those aaron brooks and ron artest shots good while ignoring yao then u a freckin idiot

 

If Yao doesn't call for the ball, it means he's not confident in his own skills to catch the ball when he's fronted.

you don't see him call for the ball or get frustrated at his teammates when he's fronted, because he knows its risky to pass to him since it'll be a turnover.

 

instead of calling people immature names, why not actually try and disprove his statement? you never heard the Spurs having trouble getting the ball to Duncan, the Lakers getting the ball to Shaq, etc...

i find it hard to believe that we have the worst collection of passing guards in the NBA. the problem is plain to see. It's Yao and his inability go after the ball.

He's waiting for the ball to land perfectly in his hands, but he's got to do his part and catch the ball.

 

how about no? how about ur wrong???

he was wide open for an easy entry pass??? so ur saying..muscle ur way inside with all ur energy after squeezing and shaking to get a deep as post position...AND put ur long as arms as far out as possible...AND make the angle as open as possible so the guard can chuck it in on target really easily.....AND HE HAS TO GO "HEYYYY AARON BROOKS OUT OF EUGENE OREGON 6'0 GUARD DRAFTED IN 2007 PASS ME THE BALL I AM OPEN AND FULLY READY TO RECEIVE THE PASS U CAN LOBE AT AN ANGLE OF 45 DEGREES!!!" and then aaron brooks will know the he can make the pass now?????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

Brooks is 6'0. he's not going to be able to make passes that taller guards can make. i think Yao understands that, just like his teammates understand that Yao won't be able to catch lob passes like more athletic centers.

it goes both ways. you can't fault Brooks for his limitations and turn a blinds eye toward Yao's.

If we had Hakeem down low, who caught anything within his vicinity, THEN i'd blame Brooks for not passing. However, a pass to Yao with a defender draped over him is very risky, and I'm not going to fault Brooks for deciding not to pass.

 

This is good analysis. We have been noticing this all year. Feed the deadliest low post player since Hakeem Olajuwon.

 

its true passing the ball to yao might lead to a turnover, but from the video, not passing to yao led to a turnover AND a fastbreak dunk. having a guard stealing the ball is much more prone to a fastbreak than having a big man stealing it. id rather take my chances with yao.

 

The Rocket's just need to keep moving the ball. Run high PnR with Yao and AB. Yao needs to trail AB and AB needs to look for Yao on the mismatch. AB needs to go quickly to the bucket and get the layup. Also, Yao is open for the 15ft jumper.

Yao struggles with rolling to the basket on the PnR.

 

Regardless of whatever limitations Brooks has, if he cant make those passes, then the Rockets need to get rid of him.

 

because Trevor Ariza was guarding him..