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[790am] Texans to release Eric Moulds

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rikesh316, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. Major

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    But this is a chicken-or-the-egg argument. Did he play better because the team played better? Or was the team more competitive because he played decent? If the latter, that would imply that if you got a QB that was decent more often, you'd be competitive and/or win more.
     
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    I know you're mentioning the running game under a Denver system right now, but the running game has simply not been as terrible as people make it out to be. In 2005, we were 15th in the league in rushing, yet the offense sucked. In 2004, we were 12th, yet the offense was blah. In 2006, we were 21st, and the offense sucked. We've been all over the map with the running game.

    Immediately ranked above the Texans in rushing were the Colts, Saints, and Jets at 18th, 19th, and 20th. Down at 25th and 26th were the Ravens and Bengals.

    I don't think the level of the running game is the best correlation with quality of offense in the current NFL, simply because much of the "running game" is now combined with short swing passes and things like that for so many teams.
     
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    I think ashlie lelie find his way to the texans for the vertical stretch guy and a reasonable price tag. I also think one of those guys like Mike Meyers will find his way here for depth. Clements would be nice, but a cheaper guy would be Hood.I also think a guy like Lewis for the right price would be good for about 270 carries in a season with Taylor and Lundy getting the other. If the Texans came out of the offseason with Plummer,Lewis,Lelie,Johnson,and Daniels at the skill spots on offense along with say Hood,and Lewis as secondary upgrades, that would drastically upgrade the squad.
     
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    Joey Porter anyone???? I know its not going to happen but it would be nice to see him and Ryans on the field. Ryans the sure tackler and Porter the big playmaking linebacker that the franchise has never had.
     
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    didnt cory dillon get cut? try to get him if i was GM
     
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    I thought I heard that he was retiring? Not a bad thought though if the case is otherwise.
     
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    it was, by and large, terrible last year during the first 8-9 games of the year; it got better ... but, so too, did the overall results. coincidence?

    and yes, this is specific to the denver system because that's what kubiak's trying to install here. when you were looking up houston's rankings, did you happen to notice denver's? between 2003-2005, they ranked 2nd, 2nd and 4th in rushing; 22nd, 18th, 6th in passing. but oh sure, let's go get jake plummer!

    the system is dependent upon the running game being successful. again, the indy game was kubiak's plan being played out to perfection: run, run, run - have a QB capable of making plays when/if needed.
     
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    corey dillon? good god; there are dead people faster than corey dillon at this point. he's done.
     
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    You're generalizing everyone that wants Carr gone with those that want Plummer. That's not the case. I don't personally think that Plummer is a worthy enough upgrade to warrant a trade. I'd personally prefer a short term deal with Jeff Garcia while drafting Kolb or Stanton.

    If Carr stays, fine. He had damn better show some sort of improvment in his decision making and leadership skills...especially if they manage to improve the OL and RB situation. If he does stay, I'd still love for them to draft someone on the first day. Carr has never really had competition behind him. He needs to know that his job isn't safe anymore. I'm not sold on Sage as a starter long term. Then again, Sage probably would have been starting those last few games had he not made what could be considered the Texans special teams play of the year.
     
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    If we can make the numbers work then Garcia would work better long-term for us in the pocketbook plus maximizing with not losing draft picks than taking Plummer. Personally think Garcia may be out of our price range because of his late season heroics with the Eagles but, we'll see. Just don't want us to lose draft picks. We need all those we can get. Since we now have a duo that on draft day doesn't have their head up their ass. If Carr is still on the team, he better be on the bench while Sage and Jeff vie for the starting spot. Honestly, I still think DC will no longer wear a Texans uniform and for both sides I think this move would be advantageous to both sides. A fresh start for everyone and Houston needs to clear some stagnant air here. Time to get out of the doldrums and move on. :D
     
  11. ac in austin

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    The coach expressing these views and one's own teammate are vastly different. Last season when this was mentioned you were pretty vehement about it being specualtion. Now that Robinson has publicly expressed his lack of faith in Carr you blame him. If this is what it takes to get Carr out of town so smart football fans will stop debating on why Carr is so freaking terrible, I say kudos to you Mr. Robinson.
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    that was in relation to moulds and others (like andre johnson, who just restructured his deal) likely wanting to leave because of carr. that continues to definitively NOT manifest itself.

    if robinson is speaking for a majority of players, then it is indeed an issue and problematic. regardless, they bother me because no one on this team is above reproach (especially him). i mean, carr - the guy everyone wants to run out of town - has played for years behind one of the worst OL ever assembled in the entire history of the NFL and has never said a word, and robinson can't show enough class to at least let this thing play out? great teammate....
     
  13. msn

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    This is certainly true of David Carr. Solid, stand-up guy.
     
  14. msn

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    Get it right. No one said it was "likely".
     
  15. updawg

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    I agree that people shouldn't be throwing others under the bus.
    Just because Carr is a nice guy doesn't mean he should be the starting QB
     
  16. ac in austin

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    I agree
     
  17. rhino17

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    Being a stand up guy does not make you a good quarterback or a good leader.
     
  18. msn

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    I agree. David's a great guy and a mediocre QB.
     

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