I didn't mean to pick on your post professorjay. You are not overly crazy like some of the guys on this board claiming we'll win it all and we don't even need T-mac to do it because Head is about to become D. Wade. I understand it's hard to embrace a guy like Bonzi with his chipped shoulder, but the Rockets need to not only embrace the guy, but put him in a bear hug. We have our 3rd scorer and it's not Bonzi its T-mac. T-mac can't carry a team anymore not with his back and he's prone to go down again at any moment. Bonzi is our new 2nd most important offensive weapon and he can carry the load just fine once all the childish BS between him and JVG is put a side. I hope T-mac comes back 100% and his back doesn't bother him anymore. The past suggests his back will continue to be a problem and that back of his is getting older not younger.
Yea... Bonzi Wells with his 12.8 ppg career average and .521 career TS% (.507 with SAC last season) will be the 2nd more important offensive option! I'm excited about the Rockets.
As the above poster said, Bonzi's career stats aren't that stellar.. too much people here are basing Bonzi on what he did in the playoffs last year vs. the Spurs, and that was only for SIX games. You can see why the Kings refused Bonzi's demands. The best case scenario is, Bonzi plays like he did in the playoffs, worst case scenario, his fat ass can't fit into JVG's system. Most likely, he'll fall somewhere in between as a sixth man sort of thing w/ Luther Head and average 8~10 ppg.
what choo talkin bout? the bouncy one had a career year last season in Sacramento and even took his game up two notches in the playoffs. if that's the Bonzi that Houston gets, what more could you ask for?
Thewaterox So you just conveniently ignore my first question by nitpicking on the rest of my post. Just think about this.......... The guy is here for what ?? To showcase his skills and value such that he can go elsewhere for a max contract next year. But so far, he seemed just a headcase, not willing to co-operate or comply with what Jeff Van Gundy demanded of him, not willing to join team practice, and not trying to train himself back to competitive form and shape. As reported in previous Chinese articles, Jeff Van Gundy told the Chinese reporters that there is no such thing as star treatment for his team; every of his players have to work hard to earn their play minutes. Yao Ming and TMAC are no different. Even Bob Sura is training his @r$e off for his comeback. What makes Bonzi Wells special ?? A sudden burst of 6 games of performance in last season's playoff when he was still with the Sacramento Kings ? Does that make him suddenly an indispensable 2nd option or 3rd option for the Rockets ? Do you think he can understand JVG's game plan/strategies/set plays and gel with his team mates overnight with so little team practices and plays ? Do you think that is fair to all the other Rockets that had worked their @r$e off for play minutes ?? I can see more destruction than construction by hastily rush and play Bonzi Wells long minutes. He needs to earn his play minutes the way the bench/role players earn theirs. Or else, I fear that the chemistry of this team will be affected.
You have got to be kidding me? You said Bonzi is a CLASS ACT? Apparently you dont get out much or you would know that from his time in POT-Land and Sac-Town that he has been notorious for making waves and creating chemistry problems on his teams yet, unbelievably gifted and talented. Thus, why the Rox took a chance on him. He came here because he needed us MORE than we needed him even though he would definitely help us go further in the playoffs. Remember, he SCREWED himself. He scoffed at Sac-A-Tomatoes' contract offer and wound up in nowhere Ville. Why? Because his reputation as a malcontent superceded his ability and talent as to being an asset and uping the overall value of the respective team potentially looking at him. Bonzi came to JVG because, he no longer had any leverage to bargain with. He pouted and then suddenly saw his career about to be flushed down the toilet if he got traded. For him to have the big pay day, he has to prove his worth on this team. This would do 2 things, 1) show that he has value to a team and can help to elevate a franchises' play. 2) show that he CAN work within a system and flourish rather than bust like Isaiah "J.R." Rider. This opportunity would in essence develop credibility with other franchises and make him an attractive piece to someone's puzzle next year. Dont blame JVG. JVG like him or hate him, he is the same and consistent in his dealings with ALL of his players. Upon coming in, JVG told him how it was and he bristled at the discipline that was being cracked on him and was unhappy because JVG was being a "meany." It was Bonzi's fault he came to camp and the squad out of shape, not the coaching staffs. He's a professional, remember! Duh!!! JVG retorts that ALL his players star or complimentary are accountable to the SAME standard. What a concept? In other words, your post shows us how uninformed and unintelligent you are. Do us a favor? Try studying up on your topic, rook.
First of all, Bonzi can't be traded until Jan. 2nd and second, why would you want Ariza and Diener so badly? I think we could do better.
Nope, the rockets and jvg went to him. Bonzi could have signed with denver or miami for the same amount of money, but chose the rockets. In fact he probably would have gotten more playing time with someone like denver, but he chose the rockets for a chance to win a championship. You better study up on these things my friend.
I'd RATHER he has opted for Denver or Miami in that case......... If he looks for a championship, when he opted to join the Rockets, what he demonstrated in the past 2 months is surely not the right attitude/mindset of a professional, not to mention a champion. Look at what he said after he winded in his first team practice in Toyota Centre, still scornfully and pointedly at Jeff Van Gundy. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4395436.html And if you read between the lines, you sure know this guy had not worked properly or indiligently on his conditioning over the past 2 weeks while he was supposedly to work on his own, when JVG banned him away from Toyota Centre. That is totally unprofessional, and surely won't be championship materials.
I don't agree man reading those quotes he seems to acknowledge JVG's authority, despite what his own opinion might be. At least i think his sucking up to JVG
There is no perfect formula for a championship team. Winning in the NBA is a combination of art and science. Van Gundy is a very professional person, and believes in hard work and practice. He believes that if you bust your ass and conduct yourself in a certain manner off the court, it will translate on the court. For the most part, he is correct, and I respect his beliefs. Bonzi Wells is an extreme case. It's not cool that so many of us BBSer's have taken his side against Van Gundy, for even if you disregard Bonzi's terrible unprofessional history, any rational and astute NBA observer could tell that Bonzi was sooo fat and out of shape the first week of games that he was hurting the Rockets a lot more than helping when he was on the court. Personal disputes of professionalism aside, Bonzi was just too fat. So while this case should be a clear cut issue, there is some truth to the criticism of Jeff Van Gundy though. He believes in his system on the court and off the court. He believes it is the best path to winning a championship. As long as everyone buys into it, we're good. Not all champions have gone the Van Gundy route though. Phil Jackson and Shaq had a relationship during the Lakers dynasty that Van Gundy would never ever ever have. Fortunately we don't have that here, for that's where the real heated debate would arise. Imagine if a super talented player were to start acting somewhere in between the extremes of Bonzi and Yao, aka, like Shaq. Take a break here, goof off there, rest extra here, and turn it on in the playoffs. I don't think Van Gundy would stand for that. But allowing that might be best for a championship. So that's something to worry about when the time comes. But for now, all is pretty cut and dry. Support Bonzi as a Rocket, but his actions early on in terms of being out of shape were extremely unprofessional. Hopefully everything will be good now.
No, JVG clashed with Taylor, Swift and more. I know it is player's problem, not on JVG, but that is different between JVG and P. Jackson. You do not change the persons all the times, sometimes you need use techniques. As for Wells, everyone knows he is a problem maker.
You mean the Taylor who was cut this offseason, and signed with the Kings only to be recently suspended for another drug violation? Or the Swift who threatened to not report to Memphis? Or did you mean the Phil Jackson who called Kwame Brown a [insert female anatomy here] to the media?
You mean like change the way he dealt with people like: Kelvin Cato, lazy unmotivated bum riding pine until JVG motivated him to do more. Rafer Alston, feuding with his coach and suspended by coach Sam Mitchell for conduct detrimental to the team. McGrady, Me-Mac-selfish unmotivated bum from Orlando Sprewell, suspended for choking the head coach.
No, Swift was late for practice things, Taylor was agaist JVG on TV and radio for not playing hard after each lose. K. Brown colud be different under the JVG.
JVG did great job on Cato. Rafer is out of control lots of time, need to be controlled more. Tmac is a nice guy for my standard, never selfish.
After you find out there is evidence you quickly try to fasttalk your way out of it... If you don't mean to say it than don't say it. But don't say it and then try to backstep your way out of what you said. It makes you look like a foolish supporter of your boy. I know your not about to acknowledge any fault with Little Jeffy but the fact is he knew who Bonzi was before the signing and he still was very much for signing him because he also knew what a talent he was. He publicly stated that he did not see Luther in the rotation and did not have faith in Snyder, and forget about Vspan so he definitely wanted Bonzi make no bones about that. So you think he would have had a little more flexibility with him. Don't get me wrong Bonzi contributed to some of this situation but anyone who thinks it was all 100% on him and JVG had no contribution to any of the problem is either blind or stupid or both. There are very few holy ones in this world and JVG isn't one of them. So lets move on and go from here. The fact is for now JVG is the one with the power so Bonzi better learn to say yessir mas'er Jeff or he will never play for him again. Go Rockets!
